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Eichel stripped of C just makes things more interesting

Créé par: jchafe77
Date de création initiale: sep 23, 2021
Publié: 23 sep à 9 h 17
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Niku, Sami1750 000 $
Staal, Eric1750 000 $
Dubnyk, Devan1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis
  2. Trouba, Jacob
  3. Kakko, Kaapo
  4. Georgiev, Alexandar
  5. 2023 1e round pick (NYR)
  6. 2022 2e round pick (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYR
STL
NYR
WPG
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 940 594 $0 $2 900 000 $9 559 406 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Strome, Ryan
4 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Staal, Eric
750 000 $
C
UFA
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Dubnyk, Devan
800 000 $
G
UFA
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Niku, Sami
750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Hájek, Libor
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Goodrow, B.
Eichel, J.
Zibanejad, M.
Panarin, A.
Fox, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Kreider, C.
Strome, R.
Kravtsov, V.
Miller, K.
Staal, E.

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23 sep à 9 h 21
#1
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Huge overpay, He just got stripped of the C and failed his physical that just tanked his value
23 sep à 9 h 23
#2
LafreneiretoKravtsov
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It makes it worse - but you went the wrong way.
23 sep à 9 h 24
#3
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The Rangers definitely don't do that.
23 sep à 9 h 29
#4
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Sabres are botching this trade every way possible. they should have taken the best offer they got a few months ago. Eichel basically going to be able to dictate where he wants to go at this point.
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23 sep à 9 h 31
#5
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Overpay sure,

But I think if you took Kakko and the 2nd off, it would work, They would need to take Trouba for cap, and his contract sucks anyway.
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23 sep à 9 h 38
#6
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Trouba doesn't waive for Buffalo. C'mon
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23 sep à 9 h 45
#7
Jimbo1119
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Unless BUF lets Eichel go for a real light return...I'd say lets shelf the Eichel talks until he's seen on the ice...which doesn't seem to be any time soon. And if they let him go for a minuscule return- my guess is he'll be going west. BUF most likely will sit tight...no rush for them to sell him now at bottom dollar.
23 sep à 9 h 48
#8
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If the Sabres proceed to tank Eichel's value, you shouldn't then proceed to ADD more to the trade.

Not how that works.
23 sep à 10 h 06
#9
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Quoting: hanson493
Sabres are botching this trade every way possible. they should have taken the best offer they got a few months ago. Eichel basically going to be able to dictate where he wants to go at this point.

No he doesn’t have that control yet. However a playoff team will most likely trade for him though and keep him on LTIR.
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23 sep à 10 h 17
#10
Shibbal18
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"EICHEL STRIPPED OF C JUST MAKES THINGS MORE INTERESTING" Why does this site blow everything out of proportion.
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23 sep à 10 h 20
#11
Shibbal18
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Quoting: hanson493
Sabres are botching this trade every way possible. they should have taken the best offer they got a few months ago. Eichel basically going to be able to dictate where he wants to go at this point.


Eichel cant dictate where he goes for 5 more years. If he really wants out he's going to waive his NMC, hes not going to limit the teams Buffalo can make a deal with, because Adams has made it clear hes not going to dump him to just get rid of him and the Pegula's dont want another ROR trade
23 sep à 10 h 32
#12
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Quoting: Salzy
Huge overpay, He just got stripped of the C and failed his physical that just tanked his value


how does it tank his trade value?

he needs surgery ...we all knew this, why would u think a guy that needs surgery would pass a physical?
he doesn't want to play for buffalo, he wants out. why does anyone think he would stay captain or that would have any bearing on his trade value?
Anyone trading for Jack knows this is the state of jack last moth as it is today, no difference.
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23 sep à 11 h 10
#13
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Eichel cant dictate where he goes for 5 more years. If he really wants out he's going to waive his NMC, hes not going to limit the teams Buffalo can make a deal with, because Adams has made it clear hes not going to dump him to just get rid of him and the Pegula's dont want another ROR trade


I get what you're saying but I can't imagine Adams is stupid enough to keep eichel on a team he doesn't want to play for. It just kills the locker room morale and let's be real, Adams isn't gonna be GM for the 5 years left on eichels deal. He'll be lucky to make it 3 years. He's better off taking the best offer he can get now. Yeah he probably loses the trade but atleast everyone can move on and he can build a team around his young guys.
23 sep à 11 h 14
#14
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Eichel cant dictate where he goes for 5 more years. If he really wants out he's going to waive his NMC, hes not going to limit the teams Buffalo can make a deal with, because Adams has made it clear hes not going to dump him to just get rid of him and the Pegula's dont want another ROR trade


Quoting: Sabres923
No he doesn’t have that control yet. However a playoff team will most likely trade for him though and keep him on LTIR.


He isnt getting surgery unless its the disc surgery he wants. Buffalo docs and gm have both said they will only sign off on the fusion which Eichel refuses to get. once next offseason hits he has a full nmc. buffalo isnt going to pay him 10m to be a pain in the ass. What playoff team is going to fork up the cost to acquire a guy that needs neck surgery. Buffalo is asking too much. like i said they botched the trade. had to move him this offseason and it hasnt happened. the further we go into the season the less they will get.
23 sep à 11 h 19
#15
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Him losing the C doesn't do anything for what kind of return the Sabres can expect. The same core issue is still there, which is the team trading for him has no idea what they're getting and the Sabres don't want to trade him for pennies on the dollar. A letter on his jersey doesn't change those facts. lol
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23 sep à 14 h 32
#16
Shibbal18
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Quoting: hanson493
He isnt getting surgery unless its the disc surgery he wants. Buffalo docs and gm have both said they will only sign off on the fusion which Eichel refuses to get. once next offseason hits he has a full nmc. buffalo isnt going to pay him 10m to be a pain in the ass. What playoff team is going to fork up the cost to acquire a guy that needs neck surgery. Buffalo is asking too much. like i said they botched the trade. had to move him this offseason and it hasnt happened. the further we go into the season the less they will get.


Buffalo wont pay him, youre right, theyll suspend him and then he can retire and go play in Russia till his contract expires
23 sep à 14 h 38
#17
Shibbal18
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
I get what you're saying but I can't imagine Adams is stupid enough to keep eichel on a team he doesn't want to play for. It just kills the locker room morale and let's be real, Adams isn't gonna be GM for the 5 years left on eichels deal. He'll be lucky to make it 3 years. He's better off taking the best offer he can get now. Yeah he probably loses the trade but atleast everyone can move on and he can build a team around his young guys.


Doesnt have to keep him on the roster to retain his rights
23 sep à 14 h 43
#18
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Buffalo wont pay him, youre right, theyll suspend him and then he can retire and go play in Russia till his contract expires


Quoting: Shibbal18
Doesnt have to keep him on the roster to retain his rights


And buffalo never attracts another UFA or signs a RFA ever again
23 sep à 14 h 47
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Buffalo wont pay him, youre right, theyll suspend him and then he can retire and go play in Russia till his contract expires


if they suspend him and dont pay him, he will go have the surgery he is requesting... and then when he comes back from it they cannot suspend him if hes medically cleared.
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23 sep à 15 h 04
#20
Shibbal18
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Quoting: hanson493
if they suspend him and dont pay him, he will go have the surgery he is requesting... and then when he comes back from it they cannot suspend him if hes medically cleared.


They can suspend him for refusing to play though
23 sep à 15 h 06
#21
Shibbal18
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
And buffalo never attracts another UFA or signs a RFA ever again


So status quo? No one has ever wanted to sign here, and they especially wont when Buffalo elects a commie mayor and somehow makes the city worse
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23 sep à 15 h 30
#22
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Quoting: Shibbal18
They can suspend him for refusing to play though


He isnt refusing to play... hes not medically cleared to play.
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23 sep à 15 h 32
#23
Shibbal18
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Quoting: hanson493
He isnt refusing to play... hes not medically cleared to play.


I mean its pretty clear neither side wants him in a Sabre uni. theres a very slim chance that he'll ever put on the Sabres jersey again, unless its a condition to facilitate a trade.
23 sep à 15 h 39
#24
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I mean its pretty clear neither side wants him in a Sabre uni. theres a very slim chance that he'll ever put on the Sabres jersey again, unless its a condition to facilitate a trade.


whats makes you say that? the public trade request? or the fact the team has leaked multiple offers for him? if the team wanted to keep him around they would have let him get the surgery he wanted.
23 sep à 15 h 39
#25
PLM
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Quoting: Salzy
Huge overpay, He just got stripped of the C and failed his physical that just tanked his value


Getting stripped of the C means nothing and I think everyone knew he was going too "fail" his physical. So explain how it tanks his value?
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