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21 oct. 2021 à 23 h 13
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Fire all the coaching staff, MB and the scouting team
Hire a president of hockey, new GM, new coaching staff, new scouting team


All of that can only happen in the offseason. For right now, something smaller needs to happen. I think the MB situation is most important to resolve. The rest will trickle down.
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22 oct. 2021 à 1 h 4
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All of that can only happen in the offseason. For right now, something smaller needs to happen. I think the MB situation is most important to resolve. The rest will trickle down.


Yeah, one way or another the habs need to figure out who the GM is going to be before the draft.

During the season probably doesn’t matter, since if the season continues as it’s going the only in-season moves would be selling off rentals, which anyone can do. However the draft and off-season is crucial, so Moulson needs to figure something out before then.
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22 oct. 2021 à 5 h 34
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So at what point does something need to change here? Im thinking Molson needs to let MB go or resign him real soon because this roster construction is just so flawed and it needs a retool fast.

Like as much as I don't like Ducharme, I don't feel like he should be the only one paying for this.


Bergevin's press conference 2 days ago he mentioned he wanted to return to Montreal... that makes me think Molson might not want to bring him back. That's a good sign at the very least
22 oct. 2021 à 6 h 23
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So at what point does something need to change here? Im thinking Molson needs to let MB go or resign him real soon because this roster construction is just so flawed and it needs a retool fast.

Like as much as I don't like Ducharme, I don't feel like he should be the only one paying for this.


I personally would want MB to come back, he’s done a pretty good job but since he’s not signed going into the year, he’s probably gone. This roster really misses Edmundson and Price, playmakers and offensive minded D’s
22 oct. 2021 à 8 h 39
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Bergevin's press conference 2 days ago he mentioned he wanted to return to Montreal... that makes me think Molson might not want to bring him back. That's a good sign at the very least


The rumour is the sticking point is money.
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22 oct. 2021 à 8 h 43
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The rumour is the sticking point is money.


I can't see why Molson would decide to offer Bergy a low money offer, either Bergy's asking for way too much or Molson is just penny-pinching, Bergy's had his ups and downs but he's been good overall
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22 oct. 2021 à 8 h 43
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Also, when are we playing Arizona, we need a win, badly
22 oct. 2021 à 9 h 13
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Well that was a bummer. At least Kotkaniemi scored, oh wait...
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22 oct. 2021 à 9 h 29
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When do we start getting worried about Caufield?
22 oct. 2021 à 9 h 38
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When do we start getting worried about Caufield?


Sophomore slump? I mean to be fair, pretty much everyone is slumping
22 oct. 2021 à 9 h 39
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Your 2021-2022 last team without a point is the... Montreal Canadiens applaud, Shane Wright here we come apparently
22 oct. 2021 à 10 h 22
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When do we start getting worried about Caufield?


Being on line 1 as a small rookie doesn't help.
22 oct. 2021 à 12 h 45
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We're at a consensus on taking Wright, right?
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22 oct. 2021 à 12 h 45
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We're at a consensus on taking Wright, right?


Nah, we'll take Left
22 oct. 2021 à 13 h 22
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We're at a consensus on taking Wright, right?


no we'll take Kemell and Carolina will offersheet him when eligible
22 oct. 2021 à 14 h 28
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I can't see why Molson would decide to offer Bergy a low money offer, either Bergy's asking for way too much or Molson is just penny-pinching, Bergy's had his ups and downs but he's been good overall


Whatever pro scout that thought signing Chiarot + Edmundson + Savard was a good idea, should be fired.
22 oct. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Whatever pro scout that thought signing Chiarot + Edmundson + Savard was a good idea, should be fired.


Edmundson has been good, Chiarot-Weber was kinda good + playoff pairing, Savard, well we needed a RD
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22 oct. 2021 à 15 h 39
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Whatever pro scout that thought signing Chiarot + Edmundson + Savard was a good idea, should be fired.


I've liked Edmundson so far, he's solid defensively. I'm not sure 3.5M was quite what I'd pay for him but I'd still take it. I was told that Savard was completely useless in Tampa, so him doing something in Montreal was surprising. 3.5M is too much for him though. And I just cannot stand Chiarot, he's completely useless, he can't perform how he's expected offensively and can't defend for his life. I don't care how much he makes I would not want him on my team.
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22 oct. 2021 à 16 h 39
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I've liked Edmundson so far, he's solid defensively. I'm not sure 3.5M was quite what I'd pay for him but I'd still take it. I was told that Savard was completely useless in Tampa, so him doing something in Montreal was surprising. 3.5M is too much for him though. And I just cannot stand Chiarot, he's completely useless, he can't perform how he's expected offensively and can't defend for his life. I don't care how much he makes I would not want him on my team.


Maybe 1 of those guys on your team are worth it, but you cannot have 3 guys like that on your backend. We've now scratched Widemen which goes to show how bad Ducharme is.
22 oct. 2021 à 18 h 41
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In his last 64 games, Claude Julien was 28-29-7 with 2.8 GF/G. In 64 games, Dominique Ducharme is 28-29-7 with 2.4 GF/G
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22 oct. 2021 à 20 h 36
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In his last 64 games, Claude Julien was 28-29-7 with 2.8 GF/G. In 64 games, Dominique Ducharme is 28-29-7 with 2.4 GF/G


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23 oct. 2021 à 13 h 42
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Bergevin first Draft : MTL 2012 Draft – 2th to 4th round pick

Sebastian Collberg (RW) – 33th – 0 games
Dalton Thrower (RD) – 51th – 0 games
Tim Bozon (LW) – 64th – 0 games
Brady Vail (C) – 94th – 0 games

Missed opportunities

Between 33 and 55 :
Jake McCabe – 44
Brock McGinn – 47
Colton Sissons – 50

Between 51 and 64 :
Teddy Blueger – 52
Chris Tierney – 55
Jordan Martinook – 58
Damon Severson – 60
Joonas Korpisalo – 62

Between 64 and 94 :
Adam Pelech – 65
Esa Lindell – 74
Chris Driedger – 76
Chandler Stephenson – 77
Shayne Gostisbehere – 78
Oskar Sundqvist – 81
Matt Murray – 83
Matt Grzelcyk – 85
Colton Parayko – 86
Frederik Andersen – 87
Erik Gustafsson - 93

edit : and I'm ignoring Galchenyuk at 3rd here lol
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23 oct. 2021 à 14 h 1
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MTL 2013 Draft – 1st to 4th round picks

Michael McCarron (C) – 25th – 75 NHL games (AHL)
Jacob De la Rose (C) – 34th – 242 NHL games (inactive)
Zachary Fucale (G) – 36th – 0 games (AHL)
Artturi Lehkonen (LW/RW) – 55th – 343 NHL games
Connor Crisp (LW) – 71th – 0 games (inactive)
Sven Adrighetto (LW) – 86th – 216 NHL games (inactive)
Martin Réway (LW) – 116th – 0 games

Missed opportunities

Between 25 and 36 :
Shea Theodore - 26
Jason Dickinson – 29
Ryan Hartman – 30
J.T. Compher – 35

Between 36 and 55 :
Robert Hägg - 41
Tristan Jarry – 44

Between 55 and 71 :
Tyler Bertuzzi – 58
Zachary Sanford – 61
Brett Pesce – 66

Between 71 and 86 :
Pavel Buchnevich – 75
Jake Guentzel – 77
Mattias Janmark – 79
Anthony Duclair – 80
Carter Verhaeghe – 82

Between 86 and 116 :
Oliver Bjorkstrand – 89
Juuse Saros – 99
Miles Wood – 100
Nicholas Paul – 101
Andrew Copp – 104
Ryan Graves - 110
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23 oct. 2021 à 14 h 18
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MTL 2014 – 1st to 4th round picks

Nikita Scherbak (LW) – 26th – 37 NHL games (inactive)
(57th pick traded for a rental)
Brett Lernout (RD) – 73th – 21 NHL games (inactive)
(87th and 117 pick traded for 73th pick)

Missed opportunities

Between 26 and 73 :
Adrian Kempe – 29
Brendan Lemieux - 31
Ivan Barbashev - 33
Thatcher Demko – 36
Alex Nedeljkovic – 37
Marcus Pettersson – 38
Vitek Vanecek – 39
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel – 48
Brandon Montour – 55
Ryan Donato – 56
Christian Dvorak – 58
Warren Foegele – 67

Between 73 and 117 :
Elvis Merzlikins – 76
Ilya Sorokin – 78
Brayden Point – 79
Devon Toews – 108
Viktor Arvidsson – 112
Danton Heinen – 116
Michael Bunting - 117
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23 oct. 2021 à 14 h 31
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I could add 2015 Draft as a bad draft, but we could say Juulsen (27th) didn't develop because of injuries.

Still, MTL missed plenty of D:

Dermott - 34
Carlo - 37
Cernak - 43
Rasmus Andersson - 53
Dunn - 56
Also missed : Beauvillier (28), Aho (35), Hintz (49)

Plus MTL had no 2nd and 4th round picks because of Petry' trade. Vejdemo at 3rd is meh, but overall 2015 wasn't a good draft year.
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