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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 16 sept. 2021
Publié: 16 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 250 000 $
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  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pinto, Shane
  3. White, Colin
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Pinto (21 year old with 1C potential) puts up a 50 point season as the 2C
Brannstrom (22 year old, 2D potential) puts up 40 points as a top 4 D
Colin White for salary purposes, capable two-way middle six C/RW
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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16 sept. 2021 à 17 h 5
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If Pinto and Brannstrom put up those kind of numbers, I would be keeping them!
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If Pinto and Brannstrom put up those kind of numbers, I would be keeping them!


Lol. Brannstrom is good enough defensively to play 2 pairing minutes. He can be a good 3rd pairing and run the 2nd PP unit. He’s basically a niche D-man until he improves defensively. Sens coaches don’t trust him yet except in sheltered shifts/minutes.
16 sept. 2021 à 17 h 25
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Lol. Brannstrom is good enough defensively to play 2 pairing minutes. He can be a good 3rd pairing and run the 2nd PP unit. He’s basically a niche D-man until he improves defensively. Sens coaches don’t trust him yet except in sheltered shifts/minutes.


He kinda reminds me of Marc-Andre Bergeron -- smaller defenseman, PP specialist, weaker defensively. I'm not really sure how his defensive game really is as I haven't seen a bunch of him, but that's the player that comes to mind when I hear his name.
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16 sept. 2021 à 17 h 29
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He kinda reminds me of Marc-Andre Bergeron -- smaller defenseman, PP specialist, weaker defensively. I'm not really sure how his defensive game really is as I haven't seen a bunch of him, but that's the player that comes to mind when I hear his name.


And from what I know, Pinto is more of a two-way, 200 ft Center that plays the PK too. And he’ll contribute offensively too but he’s not a great goal scorer or creator. He’s good at both but he’s not gonna be a 20 plus goal scorer and 50 point Center.
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16 sept. 2021 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: villenash
If Pinto and Brannstrom put up those kind of numbers, I would be keeping them!


We've got Sanderson coming up who is projected be a top 2 D and also plays LD.

Quoting: LetsGoPens69
And from what I know, Pinto is more of a two-way, 200 ft Center that plays the PK too. And he’ll contribute offensively too but he’s not a great goal scorer or creator. He’s good at both but he’s not gonna be a 20 plus goal scorer and 50 point Center.


Runner up for the hobey baker, NCHC player of the year, NCHC defensive forward of the year. 15 goals in 28 NCAA games. 2nd most points at the world juniors, more than Turcotte, Caufield, Kaliyev, etc. He's a beast and super underrated. 20 goals and 50 points is likely his floor. I mean he already put up 7 points in 12 games so far in the NHL. 48 point pace in a short sample size but as a 20 year old.
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16 sept. 2021 à 17 h 53
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We've got Sanderson coming up who is projected be a top 2 D and also plays LD.


Runner up for the hobey baker, NCHC player of the year, NCHC defensive forward of the year. 15 goals in 28 NCAA games. 2nd most points at the world juniors, more than Turcotte, Caufield, Kaliyev, etc. He's a beast and super underrated. 20 goals and 50 points is likely his floor. I mean he already put up 7 points in 12 games so far in the NHL. 48 point pace in a short sample size but as a 20 year old.




Ya, read any of his scouting reports. He’s projected as a good two way-200 foot Center. He plays the PK, or did in college. Not a great scorer or created. Good at both but not gonna be a 50 plus point player. That might be his career high. I guess we’ll see but from what I know, no scouting report or projection, coach, fan thinks he’s gonna be creator or goal scorer like that.
16 sept. 2021 à 18 h 4
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Ya, read any of his scouting reports. He’s projected as a good two way-200 foot Center. He plays the PK, or did in college. Not a great scorer or created. Good at both but not gonna be a 50 plus point player. That might be his career high. I guess we’ll see but from what I know, no scouting report or projection, coach, fan thinks he’s gonna be creator or goal scorer like that.


Bruh you don't know what you're talking about tears of joy how is he not a great scorer, have you ever seen him play? He's an amazing scorer and great on the powerplay. He led the WJC USA team in goals. Did you miss the 15 goals in 28 NCAA games last season? That the most goals in the ENTIRE league! Literally the best goal scorer in the NCHC. He was the best player on the best team. His stock has only risen since the draft. Think Bergeron Lite. He had like 60% on faceoffs in college.
16 sept. 2021 à 18 h 16
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Bruh you don't know what you're talking about tears of joy how is he not a great scorer, have you ever seen him play? He's an amazing scorer and great on the powerplay. He led the WJC USA team in goals. Did you miss the 15 goals in 28 NCAA games last season? That the most goals in the ENTIRE league! Literally the best goal scorer in the NCHC. He was the best player on the best team. His stock has only risen since the draft. Think Bergeron Lite. He had like 60% on faceoffs in college.


Yes I have. I’ve followed Pinto since he was drafted. I understand he answered some questions about his offensive potential and scoring but if he’s your teams 2nd Center, I don’t think you are a play-off team. I thinks he’s a above average, really good 3C for a team. But it’s not worth arguing about this. I get your take. You get mine. Good to go.!! Agree to disagree.
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Yes I have. I’ve followed Pinto since he was drafted. I understand he answered some questions about his offensive potential and scoring but if he’s your teams 2nd Center, I don’t think you are a play-off team. I thinks he’s a above average, really good 3C for a team. But it’s not worth arguing about this. I get your take. You get mine. Good to go.!! Agree to disagree.


I just think you're misinformed. He's been a 0.5 goals per game scorer his whole life. That's kind of his thing. I don't think you've followed him well. Look at what others players from the 2019 draft are doing. We can agree to disagree but hopefully I've at least convinced you a bit with some facts lol
16 sept. 2021 à 20 h 52
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Yes I have. I’ve followed Pinto since he was drafted. I understand he answered some questions about his offensive potential and scoring but if he’s your teams 2nd Center, I don’t think you are a play-off team. I thinks he’s a above average, really good 3C for a team. But it’s not worth arguing about this. I get your take. You get mine. Good to go.!! Agree to disagree.


goal scoring is one of his things id say aswell 20 goals isint a huge reach, there have been some pretty crappy players to put up 20 goal seasons. he was money for UND on the top PP unit and odds are he does it on Ottawas second PP aswell for a decent chunk of goals a year
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I just think you're misinformed. He's been a 0.5 goals per game scorer his whole life. That's kind of his thing. I don't think you've followed him well. Look at what others players from the 2019 draft are doing. We can agree to disagree but hopefully I've at least convinced you a bit with some facts lol


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goal scoring is one of his things id say aswell 20 goals isint a huge reach, there have been some pretty crappy players to put up 20 goal seasons. he was money for UND on the top PP unit and odds are he does it on Ottawas second PP aswell for a decent chunk of goals a year


This is the same person that tried to tell me that Stuetzle doesn't have elite potential and that not only would Marcus Pettersson be protected by the Pens but that he was a valuable trade asset that teams wanted. We'll add misconceptions about Pinto's ability to produce to the list.
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He kinda reminds me of Marc-Andre Bergeron -- smaller defenseman, PP specialist, weaker defensively. I'm not really sure how his defensive game really is as I haven't seen a bunch of him, but that's the player that comes to mind when I hear his name.


Guys. No. Brannstrom is not similar to Bergeron in any shape or form. Bergeron had one of the best shots from the point from his generation and played as much in the NHL because he was a PP specialist

Brannstrom's defensive game is not weak at all. Senators have reasons and are even stubborn in their approach. Their "hockey systems" are specific and are very dependant on LD vs RD physical implications. He had covid last year when coming back from Europe but when he finally started playing, he helped to turn the Sens defense around with Artem Zub. He's a pretty good puck mover who sees the ice really well and move the puck out of danger quickly. However, he's not as efficient on RD which is why the Sens don't want to play him on that side

If you want a comparison, look for Tobias Enstrom, who started in the NHL at 23 y/o. His peak didn't last super long, IIRC his play dropped after injuries in his late 20's

There's also Torey Krug who IMO would be his maximum upside. So somewhere between Enstrom and Krug


Quoting: LetsGoPens69
Ya, read any of his scouting reports. He’s projected as a good two way-200 foot Center. He plays the PK, or did in college. Not a great scorer or created. Good at both but not gonna be a 50 plus point player. That might be his career high. I guess we’ll see but from what I know, no scouting report or projection, coach, fan thinks he’s gonna be creator or goal scorer like that.


Read Josh Norris old "scouting reports" and then look at his rookie AHL season and then rookie NHL season.

For Pinto look at David Backes. Best comparison I have seen so far. The guy only chose to pursue a hockey career at 15 y/o. His upside is totally unknown at this point. What you have described in this thread is his floor... He's that kind of player with super high hockey IQ like a Mark Stone or Nick Suzuki so you can underrate him all you want but that won't stop him
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