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Trade with Blues

Créé par: KentMcNally
Date de création initiale: sep 14, 2021
Publié: 16 sep à 12 h 59
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Hoping that the 2nd line can create something very productive with a net driving guy (Dvorak) a rejuvenated playmaker (Drouin) and a finisher (Tarasenko). Certainly no guarantees though. I still am hesitant about what Drouin will produce.
Thomas gets put in with guys that can score in different ways and is allowed to grow as a C in a sheltered role.
Norlinder and Wideman get limited minutes but definitely help on the power play.
This is just playing around but it could be interesting.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Thomas, Robert65 000 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. 2022 6e round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2022 3e round pick (CAR)
  3. 2022 4e round pick (TBL)
  4. 2022 4e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. 2022 3e round pick (LAK)
NSH
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
MTL
  1. 2023 3e round pick (NYR)
  2. 2022 5e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Armia, Joel
MTL
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. Thomas, Robert [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Thomas signs $5M X 5 years
STL
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Mysak, Jan
  3. 2023 1e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2023 2e round pick (MTL)
  5. 2022 3e round pick (LAK)
  6. 2023 3e round pick (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
CAR
MTL
MTL
ANA
MTL
NYR
MTL
ARI
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 878 394 $597 561 $1 557 500 $1 621 606 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
7 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Thomas, Robert
5 000 000 $
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
6 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MTL
Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Norlinder, Mattias
859 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
MTL
Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5

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16 sep à 13 h 03
#1
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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No team wants 3rd/4th liner winger Armia at 3.4 X 4.
16 sep à 13 h 18
#2
Lets Get Kraken
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Have fun resigning Suzuki next year, and then Caufield the year after would be fun as well. Suzuki is primed to be making at least 6 mil next year, maybe 5 mil if he wants to help the team.
16 sep à 13 h 54
#3
the better zuki
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Quoting: palhal
No team wants 3rd/4th liner winger Armia at 3.4 X 4.


armia may be slightly overpaid, but he's still worth that value
16 sep à 13 h 57
#4
Xercuses
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blues decline for sure
16 sep à 14 h 02
#5
mokumboi
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The second you add Thomas, Blues call off talks.
16 sep à 17 h 05
#6
Démarrer sujet
Fall River Habs
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Quoting: mokumboi
The second you add Thomas, Blues call off talks.

What does St. Louis project RT to be? I am not saying this in a negative way, I am just wondering.
Is he expected to replace O’Reill or Schenn in the center ice hierarchy?
Do they have him lined up to play the wing more?
I honestly had him in the trade because there seems to be a lot of interest on him, but I was not sure whether he would be a 2nd line center type of player or not.

Any input is appreciated
16 sep à 17 h 18
#7
LetsGoBlues FLAv5
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Quoting: KentMcNally
What does St. Louis project RT to be? I am not saying this in a negative way, I am just wondering.
Is he expected to replace O’Reill or Schenn in the center ice hierarchy?
Do they have him lined up to play the wing more?
I honestly had him in the trade because there seems to be a lot of interest on him, but I was not sure whether he would be a 2nd line center type of player or not.

Any input is appreciated


By the end of the season he was exclusively playing center. I would think that he is the eventual 2C, whether that means Schenn moves to LW or they just settle on a top-9 that spreads the minutes around. I think Thomas' floor is low-end 2C and ceiling is low-end 1C. He played 3 different stretches of games last year for a total of just 33 games and he never really got going, but the season before that he was 2 pts off of the team lead in 5v5 scoring. Once he and Kyrou get PP minutes, they'll probably start to get a lot more recognition.

FWIW, here are the top 5 even strength scoring rates of anyone with over 500 TOI drafted since 2017:
Jason Robertson: 2.84 EVP/60 in 54 GP
Elias Pettersson: 2.49 EVP/60 in 165 GP
Joel Farabee: 2.19 EVP/60 in 107 GP
Max Comtois: 2.17 EVP/60 in 94 GP
Robert Thomas: 2.08 EVP/60 in 169 GP

I have extremely high hopes for the guy, just needs to stay healthy and good things will happen.
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
16 sep à 17 h 21
#8
mokumboi
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Quoting: KentMcNally
What does St. Louis project RT to be? I am not saying this in a negative way, I am just wondering.
Is he expected to replace O’Reill or Schenn in the center ice hierarchy?
Do they have him lined up to play the wing more?
I honestly had him in the trade because there seems to be a lot of interest on him, but I was not sure whether he would be a 2nd line center type of player or not.

Any input is appreciated



Ideally, he'll develop into a 1C captain. Perhaps he's no more than a 2C with great intangibles. We shall see, but he should play well in the league a long time. Kid's a gamer and a winner. Apparently he has amped up his offseason routine, hopefully a good sign.
16 sep à 18 h 48
#9
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Quoting: palhal
No team wants 3rd/4th liner winger Armia at 3.4 X 4.


Just curious, what are you thoughts about 3rd/4th liner Kerfoot at 3.5 x 2?
16 sep à 19 h 22
#10
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: gmurrayt
Just curious, what are you thoughts about 3rd/4th liner Kerfoot at 3.5 x 2?


Kerfoot certainly isn't a fourth liner. Besides the Leafs need him at centre. During the playoffs, Kerfoot was the Leafs second best forward.
16 sep à 19 h 59
#11
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Quoting: palhal
Kerfoot certainly isn't a fourth liner. Besides the Leafs need him at centre. During the playoffs, Kerfoot was the Leafs second best forward.


Kerfoot is certainly not a top 6 calibre forward. And he is not that great of a center. I fully expect him to start this season on the wing. And the playoffs for the leafs consisted of 7 games. Don't think you use a 7 game series to judge Kerfoot while ignoring his last 2 full seasons with Toronto. You could argue that Armia was one of the main reasons Montreal turned the series around against Toronto with his game 5 performance. Really, there is not much difference between the value of Kerfoot and Armia.
 
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