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Working The Cap

Créé par: DollaBillaz
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2021
Publié: 16 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
38 000 000 $
67 775 000 $
32 875 000 $
21 275 000 $
2925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
12 275 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Zuccarello, Mats (2 000 000 $ retained)
2.
MIN
  1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
NYI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
3.
MIN
  1. Schmaltz, Nick (1 316 250 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Beckman, Adam
  2. Talbot, Cam
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
4.
MIN
  1. Madden, Tyler
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de SJS
Logo de MIN
2023
Logo de MIN
Logo de LAK
Logo de MIN
Logo de CAR
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
2024
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 292 337 $0 $1 615 000 $1 207 663 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 533 750 $4 533 750 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 775 000 $7 775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
825 833 $825 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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16 sept. 2021 à 12 h 46
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No way Zona does that
16 sept. 2021 à 12 h 46
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You'd need to retain the extra mil on Zucc I think for Carolina to have interest.
16 sept. 2021 à 12 h 48
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Kings decline.
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No way Zona does that


I’m assuming you say the because of the retention, and if that’s the case, I’d ask how much you think Zona can get for Schmaltz without retention?

It won’t be this rich of a package, so you do have to wonder about the delta there. And depending on that, it’s a question of, would you pay approx 6.5M total for whatever that trade delta is? It’s worth considering from a theoretical standpoint.
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 11
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No way I give up that for Schmaltz.
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16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 15
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Yeah it is a little much, I was also thinking about Toffoli from MTL if they decide to move on from one of their wingers.
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 27
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Quoting: drmantalban
I’m assuming you say the because of the retention, and if that’s the case, I’d ask how much you think Zona can get for Schmaltz without retention?

It won’t be this rich of a package, so you do have to wonder about the delta there. And depending on that, it’s a question of, would you pay approx 6.5M total for whatever that trade delta is? It’s worth considering from a theoretical standpoint.


Yes the retention is exactly why

Why would they not be able to get a 1st and B+ prospect for him without retention?
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 28
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That's way too much value for Schmaltz. And Zuccarello at 4M is a valuable asset, worth more than a 4th.
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yes the retention is exactly why

Why would they not be able to get a 1st and B+ prospect for him without retention?


I think they maybe could, although that’s def the ceiling and not likely what they get IMO.

But that’s not my point. This package is more than that. In this case, its Talbot and a 2nd. Would you pay 6.5M for Talbot and a 2nd? Zona maybe wouldn’t, but my entire point is that the retention itself has value. And for a team that doesn’t need the entire cap, using that as leverage should not be an auto-dismissal.
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 38
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Quoting: drmantalban
I think they maybe could, although that’s def the ceiling and not likely what they get IMO.

But that’s not my point. This package is more than that. In this case, its Talbot and a 2nd. Would you pay 6.5M for Talbot and a 2nd? Zona maybe wouldn’t, but my entire point is that the retention itself has value. And for a team that doesn’t need the entire cap, using that as leverage should not be an auto-dismissal.


I think you really undervalue Schmaltz as a player, I think he is definitely worth that package without retention. It's also not about the cap space, it's about the money spent on a player not on your team and for Arizona that is very relevant
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16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Yes the retention is exactly why

Why would they not be able to get a 1st and B+ prospect for him without retention?


Bc he isnt really a C. The value i see for schmaltz is a 1st and a 3rd imo. A little less than dvorak due to the contract differences and the fact that dvorak is a real C.
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16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 48
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No way Zona does that


Disagree. In fact imo its a bit rich of a package, take out tlabot and i think youre at fair value.
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16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 54
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Bc he isnt really a C. The value i see for schmaltz is a 1st and a 3rd imo. A little less than dvorak due to the contract differences and the fact that dvorak is a real C.

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Disagree. In fact imo its a bit rich of a package, take out tlabot and i think youre at fair value.


Schmaltz is marginally better than Dvorak though
16 sept. 2021 à 13 h 58
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Schmaltz is marginally better than Dvorak though


Maybe offensively, but i thought that canceled out as dvorak is better defensively.
16 sept. 2021 à 14 h 1
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Maybe offensively, but i thought that canceled out as dvorak is better defensively.


To each their own, I'm personally taking Schamltz over Dvorak 9/10 times
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16 sept. 2021 à 14 h 30
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I think you really undervalue Schmaltz as a player, I think he is definitely worth that package without retention. It's also not about the cap space, it's about the money spent on a player not on your team and for Arizona that is very relevant


And i would counter by saying you’re overvaluing him. He’s scored 20 goals once and 50 points once, which both occurred 5 years ago. He’s under 40% on draws over his career, so he’s probably better suited on wing. I know he’s got some skills and AZ probably hasn’t been the best representation of what he’s capable of, but 5.8M is a good chunk of change.

How many teams would even realistically take him on, let alone for a 1st, 2nd, B prospect and starting goalie? I’ve seen a lot of Schmaltz over the past couple of years and i do like him as a player, I just dont agree that he’s worth this package.
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16 sept. 2021 à 15 h 11
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IMO Carolina should definitely consider if they lose Nino or Trocheck to free agency next year.
 
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