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After having a good little run in the 2022 Stanley Cup Playoffs

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15 sept. 2021 à 23 h 18
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Sens aren’t a playoff team just yet, but they will be a serious contender in a couple years
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Sens aren’t a playoff team just yet, but they will be a serious contender in a couple years


I think they either barely miss.

Or make it and then get beat in the first round by a team like Boston or Tampa.
16 sept. 2021 à 2 h 16
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I think they either barely miss.

Or make it and then get beat in the first round by a team like Boston or Tampa.


?

How

Their d core is mediocre at best

Their goaltending is just brutal

Pardon my forthrightness but I think it's really unfortunate when fans go for misguided hope instead of being realistic and blaming management

PS

It's time for sens fans to revolt against mgmt
16 sept. 2021 à 2 h 23
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I'm realizing more and more that a key reason so many here see the sens moving up in the league surprisingly soon is gustavsson and... yeah.

A 9 game sample size is almost meaningless I mean it's like pebbles when a mountain of evidence is needed to appraise properly and accurately

Calvin Pickard, Korpisalo and many other goalies started off their careers at .920+ over double that sample size and we know what happened

Korpisalo was also great for 9 games against TML

Otherwise he's one of the worst G of this era (.905)

Gustavsson could be good sure

But there's no reason to expect he'll be even a qiality backup this season, especially given inexperience, he's just an interesting minor piece of their puzzle atm
16 sept. 2021 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: Radu47
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Their d core is mediocre at best

Their goaltending is just brutal


I don't think Ottawa makes the playoffs this season. They would have needed 2 good stop gaps at RW and RD but didn't spend a dime outside of the 2 M$ on a position where they were already stacked pretty ok (LD)

I also have no idea how good the defense will be or not.

BUT that being said, If the "team defense" is like it was after mid March 2021, goaltending will be fine and I'd even say that Murray-Gustavsson would be one of the best duos in the league.

Gustavsson had 0.933 in 9 games, Murray had 0.954 in 5 games and Anton Forsberg had 0.909 in 8 games (Hogberg 0.912 in 4 games, Daccord 0.906 in 3 games)

I have no idea why they signed Forsberg but if it was Murray-Gustavsson, it would be far from a weakness IMO

It's just my opinion as a goalie myself for the past 3 decades. Note that I watch every game on PVR and analyze every goal against. I skip every intermission and ads, unless they have hockey people talking technical.

Quoting: Radu47
I'm realizing more and more that a key reason so many here see the sens moving up in the league surprisingly soon is gustavsson and... yeah.

A 9 game sample size is almost meaningless I mean it's like pebbles when a mountain of evidence is needed to appraise properly and accurately

Calvin Pickard, Korpisalo and many other goalies started off their careers at .920+ over double that sample size and we know what happened

Korpisalo was also great for 9 games against TML

Otherwise he's one of the worst G of this era (.905)

Gustavsson could be good sure

But there's no reason to expect he'll be even a qiality backup this season, especially given inexperience, he's just an interesting minor piece of their puzzle atm


Of course, nothing is guaranteed in life outside of birth and death. And it's the same for the development of a hockey goalie. I don't think anyone is debating that.

I also totally understand the 9 games sample argument and you're going to be absolutely right 99% of the time.

However, there is a particular context with Gustavsson

This guy was a 2nd round pick and always had a high pedigree, was very good in Sweden at a very young age and for his country internationally.

However the transition to North America didn't go smoothly and he was widly inconsistent in his first 2 years. I watch a lot of hockey and when it's local (Montreal/Ottawa/etc) I try to go live as much as possible. I saw him in the 2018 rookie camp but I wasn't really impressed. I was actually higher on freshly drafted Kevin Mandolese. And since then, he hasn't really gained me over to the point that I was much higher on Mads Sogaard (still am) but also Joey Daccord and even Mandolese. He was not cracking the Sens top-20 prospects anymore for me

But last year, I watched his whole 9 NHL games and some of his AHL games and he looked like a totally different player. It's like when a skater "breaks out" but this time it was a goalie. He looked like he figured it out so I made a COMPLETE 180 about him.

Sure, he could flop because a big part of a goalie's game is mental but I have rarely been wrong on goalies. For the record, I was calling Andrew Hammond a "flash in the pan" when he was rocking a 20-1-2 record and 0.941 SV% and everybody was raving about him.
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Quoting: Radu47
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How

Their d core is mediocre at best

Their goaltending is just brutal

Pardon my forthrightness but I think it's really unfortunate when fans go for misguided hope instead of being realistic and blaming management

PS

It's time for sens fans to revolt against mgmt


Not every season is the same.

Some of Ottawa's key players like Tkachuk, Norris, Batherson, Stutzle, Chabot, etc are now a year older, are more mature as professional hockey players and their strength/conditioning has evolved during the offseason.

I would not be totally shocked if we had a season like what Toronto had in 2016-2017.



In the Atlantic division, I think it will be led by Boston, Tampa and Toronto.



In the Metro division, I think it will be led by the Isles, the Canes and then either Pittsburgh or Washington.



For the two wild card spots, I have the worse team between Pittsburgh or Washington and then Florida.

I then have Ottawa as being slightly worse than the Rangers but better than the other teams in the East that I didn't mention.



So, I would say barely missing the playoffs is a good estimate IMO.

With an outside chance they make the playoffs and get beat in the 1st round by a team like Boston or Tampa.
 
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