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Rebuild Phase I

Créé par: MNCountryClub
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 14 sept. 2021
Publié: 15 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
A completely hypothetical look at a MN rebuild. Phase II would include sending off Greenway, Foligno, Zucc, Talbot, etc.

Lmk what suggestions you’d have on value adjustments.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
38 000 000 $
58 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill
Détails additionnels:
3-4x8, MIN retains 50%
2.
MIN
  1. Evans, Ryker [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
3.
MIN
  1. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Evans, Ryker
  3. Sturm, Nico
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
4.
MIN
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. Farrell, Sean [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Assumes ext with MTL
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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Logo de EDM
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $65 611 088 $0 $82 500 $15 888 912 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
825 833 $825 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
RFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
886 667 $886 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
850 833 $850 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
RFA - 4

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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 26
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I would suggest swapping Ferrall with one of Struble or Harris as Montreal likely is not moving another young center so soon, especially one who just put up 100+ points last season.
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 27
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No thanks, mainly because we won’t afford to resign him, and we have Hyman. I really like Kaprizov, but we can’t afford having him long term. Also, I’m super excited about Bourgault, and I think he’s going to be an awesome player!
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 31
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The value is fine if you switch out Farrell with one of Struble/Harris. However, the habs can’t afford to extend Dumba, so this wouldn’t really work. I’d be interested in Dumba as a rental, although I don’t think the habs can swing it cap-wise unless someone gets injured before the deadline and doesn’t get back until the playoffs.
15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: Campabee
I would suggest swapping Ferrall with one of Struble or Harris as Montreal likely is not moving another young center so soon, especially one who just put up 100+ points last season.


Good feedback, thanks. Wasn’t sure myself and just piggy packed off another ACGM but that makes sense. The prospect could def be adjusted.
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 33
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No thanks, mainly because we won’t afford to resign him, and we have Hyman. I really like Kaprizov, but we can’t afford having him long term. Also, I’m super excited about Bourgault, and I think he’s going to be an awesome player!


Yeah, I was hoping with retention and Kassian coming back, it would be more palatable as an “all in” type move, but I can respect the decline
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The value is fine if you switch out Farrell with one of Struble/Harris. However, the habs can’t afford to extend Dumba, so this wouldn’t really work. I’d be interested in Dumba as a rental, although I don’t think the habs can swing it cap-wise unless someone gets injured before the deadline and doesn’t get back until the playoffs.


Farrell could def be swapped. I wasn’t sure on MTL prospects, so I just referenced another proposal for the framework. Def get the cap issues.
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: drmantalban
Yeah, I was hoping with retention and Kassian coming back, it would be more palatable as an “all in” type move, but I can respect the decline


In terms of straight value I'd do it from an Oilers perspective. Looking bigger picture though the Oilers weakness is still the defensive side of the puck so if we were to go all in it would be better spent on a true starter or an upgrade on defense.
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Quoting: drmantalban
Farrell could def be swapped. I wasn’t sure on MTL prospects, so I just referenced another proposal for the framework. Def get the cap issues.


Yeah. If someone like Ben Chiarot got a long-term injury, then I think the habs would be interested in Dumba (50% retained) for a 1st and a 3rd. (No extension)
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: Campabee
I would suggest swapping Ferrall with one of Struble or Harris as Montreal likely is not moving another young center so soon, especially one who just put up 100+ points last season.


I don’t think Farrell will be a C at the NHL level, but I agree that he’s definitely a unique player in Montréal’s prospect pool that they’ll want to hold on to.
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15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 50
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The value is fine if you switch out Farrell with one of Struble/Harris. However, the habs can’t afford to extend Dumba, so this wouldn’t really work. I’d be interested in Dumba as a rental, although I don’t think the habs can swing it cap-wise unless someone gets injured before the deadline and doesn’t get back until the playoffs.


Actually there is a way the Habs can swing it, it just requires letting Lehkonen, Armia and Byron go next offseason. TBH though I don't think MB has any plans on moving Byron.
15 sept. 2021 à 15 h 36
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Hughes is worth more than that for sure.
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15 sept. 2021 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: VancLOSERCaSUCKS
Hughes is worth more than that for sure.


How would you adjust? That trade is completely just a thought experiment anyway, so I’m curious on how you think it needs to change.
15 sept. 2021 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: rpain
In terms of straight value I'd do it from an Oilers perspective. Looking bigger picture though the Oilers weakness is still the defensive side of the puck so if we were to go all in it would be better spent on a true starter or an upgrade on defense.


With that much firepower, who needs defense?! cool
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15 sept. 2021 à 17 h 55
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Quoting: drmantalban
How would you adjust? That trade is completely just a thought experiment anyway, so I’m curious on how you think it needs to change.


Add 3 1st round picks and maybe Vancouver would consider.
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Add 3 1st round picks and maybe Vancouver would consider.


Do you actually think the delta between Hughes and Brodin is 3 1sts or are you just being hyperbolic to prove a point?
15 sept. 2021 à 21 h 55
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Do you actually think the delta between Hughes and Brodin is 3 1sts or are you just being hyperbolic to prove a point?


I think that would be the asking price from the Canucks. Hughes provides a lot of offense and that would be hard to replace.
17 sept. 2021 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: drmantalban
How would you adjust? That trade is completely just a thought experiment anyway, so I’m curious on how you think it needs to change.


At least a first round pick added, and a decent prospect instead of Ryker Evans (who I don't think many people have heard of) and Nico Sturm
17 sept. 2021 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: VancLOSERCaSUCKS
At least a first round pick added, and a decent prospect instead of Ryker Evans (who I don't think many people have heard of) and Nico Sturm


Evans was drafted 35th OA last year. If you know who he is and just don’t care for him, then sure he could be adjusted. But the argument of “people haven’t heard of him” is pretty dang flimsy, and also really only represents yourself since you cannot speak for others’ knowledge of prospects.

Needing a 1st for Hughes is reasonable. For sure can concede there.

I guess my question is, in the hypothetical world where Hughes was traded, would VAN generally prefer all futures or at least one high end NHL player (in this case Brodin)? I’ve seen VAN fans say “we’d need a top pairing LHD” and also “we need all futures.”
 
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