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Montreal Canadiens make a trade with the Minnesota Wild hockey team

Créé par: KentMcNally
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2021
Publié: 15 sept. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
This could help Minnesota in the years to come. They have $12.2M in cap space this year and have to sign Kaprizov (probably $8M at least), but that should allow them under the cap without issue. But next year the cap rises by $1M and for the next 3 years Minnesota has dead cap hits for Suter and Parise of $12.7M, $14.7M and $14.7M, which are $8M and $10M increases for non roster players and Dumba's contract has to be negotiated for 2024-2025. Fiala's, Greenway's and Rask's contracts have to be negotiated before that. Those are probably $6.5M, $3.5M and $4.5M respectively. By my calculations that will leave them with about $9.4M without Dumba's contract in there. Additionally, they still have roster spots to fill for other players (a backup goalie, 4 defencemen and 3 other forwards). Are all of those spots going to be taken up by players earning $1,175,000.00 (aka ELCs or bottom feeders)? I know Rossi, Boldy and Addison are coming up on cheap ELCs, but still.
Looks like Minnesota will be in cap Hell after this year.
I know that Minnesota wants to compete this year, so I threw in Chiarot as an attempt to fill in Dumba's slot in order to compete this year. Not a huge net loss for one year.
This trade offers them a long term way out and gives them some young assets (Farrell just had a very good season in USHL and Struble is an NCAA defenceman who is in the mold of Dumba). The picks help too, obviously.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt
Détails additionnels:
comes with 3 year extension after 2023 season at $7M per for Matthew Dumba
MIN
  1. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
  2. Farrell, Sean [Liste de réserve]
  3. Chiarot, Ben
  4. 2022 2e round pick (MTL)
  5. 2022 4e round pick (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
CAR
MTL
ANA
CAR
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 206 727 $597 561 $1 475 000 $1 293 273 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
6 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
MTL
Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MTL
Ouellet, Xavier
737 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
MTL
Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2

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15 sept. 2021 à 18 h 37
#26
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Modifié 15 sept. 2021 à 22 h 12
Quoting: KentMcNally
You make some good points and maybe Minnesota gets more value when they trade him

I do disagree with your Petry vs Dumba evaluation. Petry has twice finished in the top 20 for Norris voting. DUMBA never has. Awards aren’t everything, but it says something. If they were the same age I would not trade what Petry has done so far for what Dumba has not yet achieved


NHL Awards are a joke, especially the Norris in particular. They basically boil down to a popularity contest between where they play (market), for what team (national popularity of team), and finally player name recognition. If Petry and Dumba had identical seasons and both were up for the Norris. Petry's going to win it every single time because he plays for Montreal, a top 5 market, versus Minnesota, the 15th largest market. Simply due to media coverage.

That has no bearing on whether Dumba or Petry is the better player. A team's overall roster talent can play a large role in that as well. Petry has simply played with better talent than Dumba has for the entire lengths of their respective careers to date. That matters, naturally Petry has had a better chance to put up points. Up until the additions of Fiala and Kaprizov, the best players Dumba had on the PP were Parise, Koivu and to a lesser extent Staal. Good players, but not anywhere near the threat necessary to stop teams from double teaming and harassing Dumba before he can get a shot off. Dumba has been effectively shutdown and neutered the last few years because teams knew they could cheat, shutdown Dumba, and not have to worry about anyone else.

But even since Fiala and Kaprizov came onto the scene Dumba's either been recovering from a massive injury or not concerned about his offensive game. Make no mistake, if Dumba focuses on his offense again teams won't be able to cheat and just focus squarely on him anymore. There are bigger fish to worry about now.

As I said before, I've watched Dumba for years, and more than enough of Petry to know what I'm talking about. Petry may get the recognition, but Dumba's the better player and overall talent.

Case and point. Mikko Koivu is widely considered by the players, coaches, and front office management of the NHL to have been the 2nd best shutdown centerman during the 2010's behind only Patrice Bergeron. The highest Mikko ever finished in Selke voting was 3rd, and he only did that once.

Bergeron has had far better talent around him his entire career as well. If you swapped Bergeron and Koivu for their careers they probably wind up where the other one does. Same could be said for Petry and Dumba. I guarantee if Dumba was playing in Montreal for the entire breadth of his career, he's the one who garners those nominations not Petry if their careers were reversed.
15 sept. 2021 à 21 h 46
#27
You know nothing JS
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Quoting: KentMcNally
So is he not going anywhere because he is so valuable or should Minnesota trade him because he is on a horrible contract that does not deserve a raise?
You contradict yourself in your different posts


We were talking about Rask...

.... You are very special. Im putting you on my list. Bye
16 sept. 2021 à 5 h 45
#28
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Quoting: jpsnow13
We were talking about Rask...

.... You are very special. Im putting you on my list. Bye
16 sept. 2021 à 5 h 46
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