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Créé par: NoWah49
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 sept. 2021
Publié: 15 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
26 000 000 $
76 750 000 $
54 000 000 $
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TOR
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
w extension
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TOR
  1. Arvidsson, Viktor (2 125 000 $ retained)
LAK
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
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UFA - 2
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15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 5
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That Marner trade is awful for the Leafs.

I doubt L.A. does that and Anaheim declines.
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15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 23
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The Wild can't afford Marner, especially in the coming years.
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15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 28
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Anaheim declines. They’d rather keep Terry and Comtois
15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 29
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Quoting: TZ11
That Marner trade is awful for the Leafs.

I doubt L.A. does that and Anaheim declines.


It's worse for the Wild. Or did you just gloss over Marner's cap hit?

Last thing the Wild need is two wingers making roughly $20M combined. (Marner + Kaprizov)
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15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 36
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Quoting: RazWild
It's worse for the Wild. Or did you just gloss over Marner's cap hit?

Last thing the Wild need is two wingers making roughly $20M combined. (Marner + Kaprizov)


Did u forget marner scored 94 points three years ago and was top 5 in points last year ? I guess ppl only remember what they want? Wild would take this and run
15 sept. 2021 à 1 h 53
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Did u forget marner scored 94 points three years ago and was top 5 in points last year ? I guess ppl only remember what they want? Wild would take this and run


No, I didn't. And no, they wouldn't.

I'm more than aware of how good Marner is as a player.

I simply do not care.

His current cap hit destroys whatever worth he brings on the ice when coupled with another winger who is likely going to cost $9M+ on their next contract in their own right. On a team that has enough cap issues as it is, and will have dead cap's of $12M, $14M and $14M for the next 3 years after this season.

Having $20M tied up into 2 players, who're both wingers, is economically unfeasible until the Parise/Suter buyouts go back down to a more manageable $1.6M per season after 2025.

So no, it's not a good trade for the Wild.
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15 sept. 2021 à 2 h 12
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No thanks from Minnesota's perspective. Marner's is so awful in the playoffs and just disappear, much less Minnesota doesn't need another Winger much less expensive one.

Beyond crappy proposal by @Nowah49 of Minnesota's again, no disrespect . But next time I see a fair sided proposal of Minnesota by yours will be the 1st one
15 sept. 2021 à 2 h 13
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Quoting: Oodz
Did u forget marner scored 94 points three years ago and was top 5 in points last year ? I guess ppl only remember what they want? Wild would take this and run


Kaprizov was top 8 in NHL last year, so no Minnesota really doesn't considering Minnesota gets the awful end here, and Winger isn't a need at all!
15 sept. 2021 à 8 h 21
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Quoting: RazWild
It's worse for the Wild. Or did you just gloss over Marner's cap hit?

Last thing the Wild need is two wingers making roughly $20M combined. (Marner + Kaprizov)


I wasn't talking about what makes sense for the Wild. I know it would be bad for them. I was looking at it from Toronto's perspective. It wouldn't make sense to trade a Top 5 RW in the league (I criticize him a lot, but in the regular season he is that) for that return. Yes, he has a high cap hit. But if this were the value coming back, it would be far more logical to just keep him. Let's just put it this way: The trade is bad for both teams.
15 sept. 2021 à 9 h 24
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Quoting: ChristianA
Kaprizov was top 8 in NHL last year, so no Minnesota really doesn't considering Minnesota gets the awful end here, and Winger isn't a need at all!


He most def wasn’t a top 8 player last year LMAO. I Can name at least 20 players who had a better 2021 campaign than him. Maybe top 30 but no way he’s even close to being top 8
15 sept. 2021 à 10 h 43
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I guess I’m the lone wild fan who would take this deal in a heartbeat if not for the suter/parise buyouts. I’d decline because the cap would be atrocious, but value wise, that’s really not a lot for a player of Marners skill level.
15 sept. 2021 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: drmantalban
I guess I’m the lone wild fan who would take this deal in a heartbeat if not for the suter/parise buyouts. I’d decline because the cap would be atrocious, but value wise, that’s really not a lot for a player of Marners skill level.

Yeah, but the buyouts make it barely possible. Plus the fact that he was playing with elite Auston Matthews at C….
15 sept. 2021 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: Aero_Astro_Guy
Yeah, but the buyouts make it barely possible. Plus the fact that he was playing with elite Auston Matthews at C….


Yeah it’s def not a good move with the buyouts. It’s not a glaring need and we’d have no chance at being competitive, but just purely from a value exchange, the wild make out better here IMO.

Marner is elite with or without Matthews. There may be some degree of inflated numbers, but he’s very much a high end 1st line winger regardless.
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17 sept. 2021 à 12 h 25
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He most def wasn’t a top 8 player last year LMAO. I Can name at least 20 players who had a better 2021 campaign than him. Maybe top 30 but no way he’s even close to being top 8


He was in scoring, that's a fact look it up
17 sept. 2021 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: ChristianA
He was in scoring, that's a fact look it up


So that means mitch marner is a top 5 player in the nhl?
17 sept. 2021 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: Oodz
So that means mitch marner is a top 5 player in the nhl?


Quoting: Oodz
So that means mitch marner is a top 5 player in the nhl?


Read what I said. Clearly you didn't
 
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