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Strome Trade

Créé par: Roysboy72
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 14 sept. 2021
Publié: 14 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I see people selling Strome off for these kinds of deals, and I feel like at this value it's a steal.
I can already hear people saying "He doesn't fit the timeline", "He's an expiring UFA", and "He's only good because of Panarin". Relax, he's young enough that he's in his prime yet can still be a veteran presence, and I can see him re-signing here if he enjoys it and Yzerman works his silver tongue. If he doesn't plan on re-signing, sell him off at the deadline. If he does, the team is better for it (he's a right shot top 6 center, which fills a need). The team looks to be turning a corner, and we can't bank on tanking and just getting handed Shane Wright.
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14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 52
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14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 1
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Drury laughs so hard he wets himself and then hangs up the phone. Not even close for Strome.
14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 5
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I like strome but hes gonna be 29 in the offseason and a ufa so he is going to want to cash in best he can. I dont see that being detroit.
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14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 5
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Strome is overrated but not that overrated, awful for the Rags
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14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 7
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Quoting: delneggs
Drury laughs so hard he wets himself and then hangs up the phone. Not even close for Strome.

Yeah, I've seen a few ACGMs with Strome deals at this kind of value and nobody in the comments cared a single bit. I even saw somebody call Strome a "mediocre 3C" recently. I don't get it, so I made this one to gauge the reaction (both on Strome's value and DET interest). I'm relieved that I'm not insane and Strome really is worth something.
14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 31
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Strome would definitely be a sell-high candidate for NYR. He had the best year of his career last year numbers-wise, with a sustainable shooting percentage, but his linemates definitely helped out for sure. His on-ice shooting percentage (the shooting percentage for the entire team while he was on ice) was way above average (league average, and his career average). He also played a very sheltered role last year in comparison to his previous years (61% ozone start rate, which probably had something to do with his linemates). Also, over a 1/3 of his points came on the power play (again, most likely linemate driven).

If comparing with others, he'd be an older version of Vincent Trocheck (Trocheck is about 2 years younger, and scores at a much higher rate). Trocheck brought back Erik Haula, Eetu Luostarinen, Chase Priskie and Lucas Wallmark for FLA, which isn't very much (of them, only Haula and Luostarinen spent any significant time in the NHL last year). The trade listed above is similar to the Trocheck trade (maybe swap out the pick for another prospect) but is still very underwhelming. NYR shouldn't expect much return for Strome, especially going into his UFA year. They'd be better off keeping him unless they are way out of the playoff race (and still don't expect much of a return at the TDL).

To further the conversation, DET should in no way be looking at Strome. He's at best a middling 2C, or a good 3C, and is very linemate-dependent. At 29, he's already on the downside of his peak.
14 sept. 2021 à 14 h 0
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Strome would definitely be a sell-high candidate for NYR. He had the best year of his career last year numbers-wise, with a sustainable shooting percentage, but his linemates definitely helped out for sure. His on-ice shooting percentage (the shooting percentage for the entire team while he was on ice) was way above average (league average, and his career average). He also played a very sheltered role last year in comparison to his previous years (61% ozone start rate, which probably had something to do with his linemates). Also, over a 1/3 of his points came on the power play (again, most likely linemate driven).

If comparing with others, he'd be an older version of Vincent Trocheck (Trocheck is about 2 years younger, and scores at a much higher rate). Trocheck brought back Erik Haula, Eetu Luostarinen, Chase Priskie and Lucas Wallmark for FLA, which isn't very much (of them, only Haula and Luostarinen spent any significant time in the NHL last year). The trade listed above is similar to the Trocheck trade (maybe swap out the pick for another prospect) but is still very underwhelming. NYR shouldn't expect much return for Strome, especially going into his UFA year. They'd be better off keeping him unless they are way out of the playoff race (and still don't expect much of a return at the TDL).

To further the conversation, DET should in no way be looking at Strome. He's at best a middling 2C, or a good 3C, and is very linemate-dependent. At 29, he's already on the downside of his peak.


This guy makes the points I was going to make. Detroit shouldn't be interested in strome, he doesn't do that good without panarin. Plus he's too old for Detroit.
14 sept. 2021 à 14 h 1
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Drury laughs so hard he wets himself and then hangs up the phone. Not even close for Strome.


What would you expect strome to return?
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14 sept. 2021 à 14 h 58
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What would you expect strome to return?


I don't expect he will be traded to start. The Rangers are not going to trade for Eichel because of Buffalo's ridicules trade demands, so I see the Rangers signing him again. People can say whatever they want about the kid, but on the Rangers he is a 60+ point 2C that has good chemistry with their best player. Unless Strome asks for an outrageous salary or term, I think he will stay in NYC. He likes the team and obviously likes playing with Panarin. BUT...if he were to be traded, there is no reason to trade him for less than a legit 60+ point 2C would get, and a 3rd round pick and two prospects ain't it. The conversation starts with a 1st round pick plus other assets.
14 sept. 2021 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: delneggs
Drury laughs so hard he wets himself and then hangs up the phone. Not even close for Strome.


I mean... Drury has made some questionable trades already...
14 sept. 2021 à 17 h 55
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Strome is overrated but not that overrated, awful for the Rags


I agree but Strome to Detroit makes no sense.
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I agree but Strome to Detroit makes no sense.


For the Rangers sure, at that price you just take him and flip at the deadline for actual value
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For the Rangers sure, at that price you just take him and flip at the deadline for actual value


Ok but there is no way the Ranger's let him go at that price.
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14 sept. 2021 à 20 h 31
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I mean... Drury has made some questionable trades already...


He didn't get enough for Buchnevich, that is for sure, but that was driven by future cap issues (signing Fox and Mika). I have no problem with a 3rd round pick for Reaves.
15 sept. 2021 à 13 h 37
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Rangers best bet is to wait until the deadline and sell him at half retain. Potentially the same with Zibanejad depending on how their season goes. By then Strome will go to the highest bidder which will probably end up being a 1st round pick or a 2nd and a prospect. The deal I would make now is with Ottawa for their 2nd rounder and Logan Brown. This deal shown doesn’t move the needle for the rangers at all as it doesn’t fit their needs.
15 sept. 2021 à 14 h 18
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He didn't get enough for Buchnevich, that is for sure, but that was driven by future cap issues (signing Fox and Mika). I have no problem with a 3rd round pick for Reaves.


Your future cap issues is driven from paying a 4th liner (Goodrow) to 6 yrs x $3.641 mil/yr, a third pair dman for 3 x $2.5mil, and a 29 year old winger (Kreider, at the time) to 7 x $6.5 mil per. tears of joy

If you're okay with a 3rd for Ryan Reaves, then there's a problem lol. Tom Wilson really in y'alls head
15 sept. 2021 à 18 h 23
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Your future cap issues is driven from paying a 4th liner (Goodrow) to 6 yrs x $3.641 mil/yr, a third pair dman for 3 x $2.5mil, and a 29 year old winger (Kreider, at the time) to 7 x $6.5 mil per. tears of joy

If you're okay with a 3rd for Ryan Reaves, then there's a problem lol. Tom Wilson really in y'alls head


Goodrow will be a 3rd line player but I agree his term and cost is a bit steep, but when your team has NO bite, you need to do something. Nemeth is around to help bring Lundquist along, so that is a GOOD signing IMO. His cap hit does not cause major issues. Kreider is signed, nothing can be done there. And the first, second, third, etc. time Reaves protects our kids, I will thank god we have him. A 3rd round pick means NOTHING when you watch your best player get injured by a POS like Wilson. And yes, I am hoping Reaves puts Wilson in the hospital. The cap issue is driven by Fox being so damn good that his cap hit will jump from under a million to around $9 million after this season along with keeping Mika around, which will cost $3 to $4 million more than he makes now. Those two contracts are the issue and that's why Buch was traded. 2 players will eat up an additional $11 to $12 million in cap after this season.
17 sept. 2021 à 14 h 24
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Goodrow will be a 3rd line player but I agree his term and cost is a bit steep, but when your team has NO bite, you need to do something. Nemeth is around to help bring Lundquist along, so that is a GOOD signing IMO. His cap hit does not cause major issues. Kreider is signed, nothing can be done there. And the first, second, third, etc. time Reaves protects our kids, I will thank god we have him. A 3rd round pick means NOTHING when you watch your best player get injured by a POS like Wilson. And yes, I am hoping Reaves puts Wilson in the hospital. The cap issue is driven by Fox being so damn good that his cap hit will jump from under a million to around $9 million after this season along with keeping Mika around, which will cost $3 to $4 million more than he makes now. Those two contracts are the issue and that's why Buch was traded. 2 players will eat up an additional $11 to $12 million in cap after this season.


Goodrow's advanced analytics show that he is a 4th liner at best. Coleman and Gourde carried him last season. You can get someone better with "bite" at that price. Yes, something can be done with Krieder, you can trade him tears of joy You can literally sign someone at league min to protect the kids. A 3rd round pick should mean you can get a potential quality player for your future. Cap issues arise from overpaying for players from their actual value. Krieder was overplayed the moment he signed. Trouba is overpaid too. Yes he's good but still overpaid. As well giving Shesterkin that contract after one season? Questionable. If you're betting on his potential, sure but goalies tend to fluctuate in value and production constantly. Look at Samsonov as an example. Fox was bound to be good from his rookie reason so they should've been prepared for that.
17 sept. 2021 à 19 h 30
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Goodrow's advanced analytics show that he is a 4th liner at best. Coleman and Gourde carried him last season. You can get someone better with "bite" at that price. Yes, something can be done with Krieder, you can trade him tears of joy You can literally sign someone at league min to protect the kids. A 3rd round pick should mean you can get a potential quality player for your future. Cap issues arise from overpaying for players from their actual value. Krieder was overplayed the moment he signed. Trouba is overpaid too. Yes he's good but still overpaid. As well giving Shesterkin that contract after one season? Questionable. If you're betting on his potential, sure but goalies tend to fluctuate in value and production constantly. Look at Samsonov as an example. Fox was bound to be good from his rookie reason so they should've been prepared for that.


Sorry, we see thing differently. You're entitled to you opinions, I simply disagree with them.
 
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