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All the Cs

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Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2021
Publié: 14 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
NYR gets their Cs of the future, trades MIN a stop gap top 6 C to shelter Marco Rossi for a year for an interesting B+ C prospect, NYR maintains enough cap to make a run at Eichel in season (in which case they let Zib walk in the offseason).

Looks like RT wants more than Kyrou's 2.8mill/year on a bridge, so by overpaying in the first year, NYR could potentially sign him for less in January, keeping his cap lower when they have ~17mill next season to pay Fox ~9mill and bridge Kakko. Season after that, ~13mill to pay Laf and Miller, so feasible-ish? This is for fun and thought experiments (bonuses, getting guys through waivers to move them up and down, injuries that don't go on LTIR etc. not addressed).
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
14 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Thomas, Robert4 000 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Schneider, Braden
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Koskinen, Mikko (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
Détails additionnels:
This happens mid-season when EDM's goalie situation falls apart and they are desperate and NYR finally realizes they aren't getting a first for Georgiev.
3.
NYR
  1. Khovanov, Alexander
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
NYR has to retain 'cause of MIN's cap.
MIN
  1. Strome, Ryan (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
NYR gets a 5th for the retention
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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Logo de MIN
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2023
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Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $80 578 969 $0 $7 550 000 $921 031 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2

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14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 21
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Edmonton isn't going to downgrade their goaltending AND retain AND give up a high pick. tears of joy
14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 43
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Sabres decline
14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 49
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Edmonton isn't going to downgrade their goaltending AND retain AND give up a high pick. tears of joy


Wait... you're saying Gorgiev is a downgrade from Koskinen?
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14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 49
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Wait... you're saying Gorgiev is a downgrade from Koskinen?


Yes.
14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 51
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres decline


I've heard that Schneider is untouchable anyway. That said, I think this is closer to what the Sabres will probably get vs. some of the other things we see. Two 1sts, top prospect and a decent prospect. Not to mention you get that salary COMPLETELY off the books. Pretty solid IMO. Maybe you could get a little something extra within reason.
14 sept. 2021 à 9 h 51
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Yes.


Well that simply isn't true.
14 sept. 2021 à 10 h 4
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I've heard that Schneider is untouchable anyway. That said, I think this is closer to what the Sabres will probably get vs. some of the other things we see. Two 1sts, top prospect and a decent prospect. Not to mention you get that salary COMPLETELY off the books. Pretty solid IMO. Maybe you could get a little something extra within reason.


Sabres have no problem with salary and they need forwards, especially when trading their franchise centerman, I never said they wanted more
14 sept. 2021 à 10 h 27
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I guess I'm confused where this 17m is coming from from next off-season and an additional $13m the following off-season.
14 sept. 2021 à 10 h 48
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we get to get rid of Koski and actually have a good goalie??? I'm taking that any day
14 sept. 2021 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I've heard that Schneider is untouchable anyway. That said, I think this is closer to what the Sabres will probably get vs. some of the other things we see. Two 1sts, top prospect and a decent prospect. Not to mention you get that salary COMPLETELY off the books. Pretty solid IMO. Maybe you could get a little something extra within reason.


I'd hope he's untouchable he's got some serious upside and is super physical. I wish the oilers picked him squinty smile
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14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 34
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we get to get rid of Koski and actually have a good goalie??? I'm taking that any day


Georgiev being a good goalie might be an overstatement... his sv% trend is troubling:
2018- 0.918
2019- 0.914
2020- 0.910
2021- 0.905
14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 36
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Well that simply isn't true.


Quoting: DmitryCoolikov_On_INSTAGRAM
we get to get rid of Koski and actually have a good goalie??? I'm taking that any day


You need to look at the facts then. Over the past 2 years, Koskinen posted a .910 save percentage to Georgiev's .908. And Koskinen's mark was dragged down by the beginning of 20-21 when Smith was injured and Holland screwed up the backup situation repeatedly, and it meant that Koskinen had to play every game of a wicked schedule - 12 games in 24 nights traveling thousands of miles through 4 time zones - which isn't something ANY goalie can stand up under. It wasn't fair to Koskinen but Tippett had little choice but to keep throwing him over the boards, so his results were poor over that stretch. I don't fault Koskinen for that, he did his best in an impossible situation.

If you pull those 12 games out of the equation to get a look at how he performs under normal circumstances, his save percentage over the past two seasons is .916, well above Georgiev's .908.

And before you blame NYR's defense, know that Koskinen faced 32.60 shots/60 to Georgiev's 31.99 SA/60 in all situations, and 32.34 SA/60 vs Georgiev's 31.03 at 5v5. Its not quality of shots either, as Koskinen faced 8.50 HDSA/60 while Georgiev faced 7.46.

Edmonton is in Win Now mode, they aren't going to downgrade their goaltending this year. And to expect them to give up a high pick to make their team worse is crazy.
14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 46
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You need to look at the facts then. Over the past 2 years, Koskinen posted a .910 save percentage to Georgiev's .908. And Koskinen's mark was dragged down by the beginning of 20-21 when Smith was injured and Holland screwed up the backup situation repeatedly, and it meant that Koskinen had to play every game of a wicked schedule - 12 games in 24 nights traveling thousands of miles through 4 time zones - which isn't something ANY goalie can stand up under. It wasn't fair to Koskinen but Tippett had little choice but to keep throwing him over the boards, so his results were poor over that stretch. I don't fault Koskinen for that, he did his best in an impossible situation.

If you pull those 12 games out of the equation to get a look at how he performs under normal circumstances, his save percentage over the past two seasons is .916, well above Georgiev's .908.

And before you blame NYR's defense, know that Koskinen faced 32.60 shots/60 to Georgiev's 31.99 SA/60 in all situations, and 32.34 SA/60 vs Georgiev's 31.03 at 5v5. Its not quality of shots either, as Koskinen faced 8.50 HDSA/60 while Georgiev faced 7.46.

Edmonton is in Win Now mode, they aren't going to downgrade their goaltending this year. And to expect them to give up a high pick to make their team worse is crazy.


Koskinen has the 10th WORST GSAA in the league and Gorgiev's is better by a very large margin.
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14 sept. 2021 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I've heard that Schneider is untouchable anyway. That said, I think this is closer to what the Sabres will probably get vs. some of the other things we see. Two 1sts, top prospect and a decent prospect. Not to mention you get that salary COMPLETELY off the books. Pretty solid IMO. Maybe you could get a little something extra within reason.


Normally i am in complete agreement with shibbal, but honestly i can see the sabres taking this (depending on their valuation of kravtsov). I would rather higher end young forwards, but i can get there if a right d is the bpa for the other player. No goalies or left d, please and thank you.
14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 4
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Rangers say NO, NO and NO.
14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 34
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Koskinen has the 10th WORST GSAA in the league and Gorgiev's is better by a very large margin.

Look at it over 2 years.
14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 35
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Look at it over 2 years.


Why? I'm looking at last year. That's all I need.
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14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 57
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Why? I'm looking at last year. That's all I need.


its not worth the argument.. lol
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14 sept. 2021 à 12 h 58
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I would actually rather see what Khovanov turns into, given where the Wild are going to be for the next four years.
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 1
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its not worth the argument.. lol


Yeah, I'm starting to see that lol
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 35
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Why? I'm looking at last year. That's all I need.

I already noted the main reason, you can chose to ignore it if you want.

No trade.
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 36
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I already noted the main reason, you can chose to ignore it if you want.

No trade.


Wrong.
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 52
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Wrong.


No trade. Edmonton rejects.
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 56
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No trade. Edmonton rejects.


Edmonton accepts.
14 sept. 2021 à 13 h 58
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Edmonton accepts.

Welcome to my IGNORE list, troll.
 
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