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Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 sept. 2021
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Shayna Goldman of The Athletic wants the New York Rangers to trade for Dylan Larkin.


It's made pretty obvious by this tweet here:


https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1436002709526691849
DET
    My question to you is this:


    If you were to trade Larkin to the Rangers, what would you like in return?


    Do you see anything you like from the Rangers?
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 40
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    Cant wait to see this thread
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 41
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 43
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    They would probably ask for Laf TBH
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 47
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    I’d be shocked if we didn’t hear Laf and Miller from someone.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 50
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    Its just not something to ask fans, its a loaded question. All the answers you are going to get are going to make you think "HA GET REAL" but as wings fans, we dont really want to move Larkin what so ever, so unless its a blatant overpay its not really a discussion to be had. Hes our captain, and as an original 6 team with only heart and soul guys to put that C on, its a big deal, and hes a home town kid, Michigan wolverine.. Just really want him to be the only were worried about being here when we get another cup.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 55
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    Its just not something to ask fans, its a loaded question. All the answers you are going to get are going to make you think "HA GET REAL" but as wings fans, we dont really want to move Larkin what so ever, so unless its a blatant overpay its not really a discussion to be had. Hes our captain, and as an original 6 team with only heart and soul guys to put that C on, its a big deal, and hes a home town kid, Michigan wolverine.. Just really want him to be the only were worried about being here when we get another cup.


    You add Wright this draft and I’d say it’s all but guaranteed, only a matter of when at that point.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 19 h 57
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    I’d be shocked if we didn’t hear Laf and Miller from someone.


    I heard some rumours about this possibility . Have to assume starts with Miller or Kakko and a 1st
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 4
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    I would be interested in something like Miller and Chytil maybe a pick added. Ask would be alot for him. Maybe guys like Barron or Schneider added to put it over the top.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 5
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    Its just not something to ask fans, its a loaded question. All the answers you are going to get are going to make you think "HA GET REAL" but as wings fans, we dont really want to move Larkin what so ever, so unless its a blatant overpay its not really a discussion to be had. Hes our captain, and as an original 6 team with only heart and soul guys to put that C on, its a big deal, and hes a home town kid, Michigan wolverine.. Just really want him to be the only were worried about being here when we get another cup.


    A loaded question would have a presumption of guilt or shame built into it.

    All I'm asking is what would you want from the Rangers in a trade involving Larkin.

    I have no intention of making any judgements on whatever your answer is to the question.



    Larkin has regressed somewhat and he has a NTC that kicks in next year.

    He's only 25.

    But Detroit's rebuild might be taking longer than expected and Larkin might not fit in with Detroit's long-term plans to compete.

    Much like Anthony Mantha.

    Whether Larkin is from Michigan or that Detroit was an Original 6 team over half a century ago should have nothing to do with it.



    Also, by the time Detroit gets another cup, Larkin will be just as old as I am smile
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 8
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    I would be interested in something like Miller and Chytil maybe a pick added. Ask would be alot for him. Maybe guys like Barron or Schneider added to put it over the top.


    You wouldn’t be interested in Kakko?
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 15
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    You wouldn’t be interested in Kakko?


    I think we some really good forwards coming up and I think he's got exceptional talent I believe championship teams are built from the back end up. We have a bunch of what could be good LD prospects but I think Miller is a step above all of them not named Edvinsson, not sure where he stands yet. I also think good forwards are easier and cheaper to come by than good defenceman as we have seen with the price paid for some this year. I would also be really interested in Lundkvist if for some reason we wanted to get a return for Hronek.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 15
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    Quoting: Lancebmx
    I would be interested in something like Miller and Chytil maybe a pick added. Ask would be alot for him. Maybe guys like Barron or Schneider added to put it over the top.


    Crazy enough something around Miller, Chytil and a 1st makes sense. We get a long term top 6 center. We’d have to hope though that Jones or Robertson is top 4 caliber or things could get dicey on the left side long term, but I think Jones with Trouba as a defensive partner could maybe work. Either way both sides would complain about too much or not enough, but it could make sense. Plus Miller is a young top 4 d man, Chytil is a young center. I mean there’s certainly value there.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 16
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    A loaded question would have a presumption of guilt or shame built into it.

    All I'm asking is what would you want from the Rangers in a trade involving Larkin.

    I have no intention of making any judgements on whatever your answer is to the question.



    Larkin has regressed somewhat and he has a NTC that kicks in next year.

    He's only 25.

    But Detroit's rebuild might be taking longer than expected and Larkin might not fit in with Detroit's long-term plans to compete.

    Much like Anthony Mantha.

    Whether Larkin is from Michigan or that Detroit was an Original 6 team over half a century ago should have nothing to do with it.



    Also, by the time Detroit gets another cup, Larkin will be just as old as I am smile


    It’s less that Larkin has regressed, but more that he’s facing the toughest matchups every night as the only good C on the team - and the team around him hasn’t gotten better over the same years when Larkin has been trending downwards.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 19
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    Crazy enough something around Miller, Chytil and a 1st makes sense. We get a long term top 6 center. We’d have to hope though that Jones or Robertson is top 4 caliber or things could get dicey on the left side long term, but I think Jones with Trouba as a defensive partner could maybe work. Either way both sides would complain about too much or not enough, but it could make sense. Plus Miller is a young top 4 d man, Chytil is a young center. I mean there’s certainly value there.


    I think Chytil could grow to be a 50 point guy. Probably gets that in the wing, top 6 wing bottom 6 centre is how I feel about him. But could be surprised if it was better. I think a deal could be worked out where we send one of our many fairly decent LD prospects back, not as good as Miller but be able to fill the hole left by him in the system. Maybe a McIsaac or Viro could be added to a potential deal.

    This has honestly been on my mind for a few weeks and I drafted a few teams for potential Larkin trades but never posted any. I'm going to play around with a few options tonight now, rangers are top on my list with what they could offer
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    11 sept. 2021 à 20 h 45
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    Its just not something to ask fans, its a loaded question. All the answers you are going to get are going to make you think "HA GET REAL" but as wings fans, we dont really want to move Larkin what so ever, so unless its a blatant overpay its not really a discussion to be had. Hes our captain, and as an original 6 team with only heart and soul guys to put that C on, its a big deal, and hes a home town kid, Michigan wolverine.. Just really want him to be the only were worried about being here when we get another cup.


    Very well said.
    11 sept. 2021 à 21 h 18
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    Did you read the article or see Larkin's picture at the top of it and then posted this ACGM?

    The title of the article is "Five players not named Jack Eichel who could help solve the Rangers’ long-term center problem"
    11 sept. 2021 à 21 h 28
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    The players listed in order.

    Evgeny Kuznetsov

    Instead of going after Sean Monahan they should go after Elias Lindholm.

    Instead of going after Bo Horvat they should target Elias Pettersson.

    Dylan Larkin

    Tomas Hertl
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    11 sept. 2021 à 21 h 31
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Did you read the article or see Larkin's picture at the top of it and then posted this ACGM?

    The title of the article is "Five players not named Jack Eichel who could help solve the Rangers’ long-term center problem"


    The article is protected by a paywall.

    I didn't have much of a choice frown
    11 sept. 2021 à 22 h 32
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    Quoting: aedoran
    The players listed in order.

    Evgeny Kuznetsov

    Instead of going after Sean Monahan they should go after Elias Lindholm.

    Instead of going after Bo Horvat they should target Elias Pettersson.

    Dylan Larkin

    Tomas Hertl

    Idk if you got that from the article, or if it said Monahan and you’re saying Lindholm, but Lindholm isn’t going anywhere, period. And honestly Monahan should only be on the block if we’re upgrading to Eichel or Hertl.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 23 h 0
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    Idk if you got that from the article, or if it said Monahan and you’re saying Lindholm, but Lindholm isn’t going anywhere, period. And honestly Monahan should only be on the block if we’re upgrading to Eichel or Hertl.


    The article said Monahan and @aedoran is saying that Lindholm is a better player and target. That being said, you’re 100% right that Lindholm is as immovable as Larkin, Pettersson, and even Horvat. I think the four most feasible options for New York are Hertl, Monahan, Kuznetsov (pls to god no), and JT Miller.
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    12 sept. 2021 à 1 h 48
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    You definitely don't put Larkin at 3C
    12 sept. 2021 à 1 h 50
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    Quoting: Alfie11
    Idk if you got that from the article, or if it said Monahan and you’re saying Lindholm, but Lindholm isn’t going anywhere, period. And honestly Monahan should only be on the block if we’re upgrading to Eichel or Hertl.


    Quoting: mhroblak
    The article said Monahan and aedoran is saying that Lindholm is a better player and target. That being said, you’re 100% right that Lindholm is as immovable as Larkin, Pettersson, and even Horvat. I think the four most feasible options for New York are Hertl, Monahan, Kuznetsov (pls to god no), and JT Miller.


    Yes that was from the article and not my opinion. Personally I don't think the Rangers need more high end players they need to become a team and not just a bunch of guys wearing the same jersey and that takes time. The COVID divisions and shortened season benefited some teams and hurt others. A lot of people at the start of the season had the Ranges and the Sabers in the playoffs but with a slow start was just too much to overcome in a stacked divison. There was no way 4 teams were worse than Detroit but they were in a weak division.
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    12 sept. 2021 à 2 h 17
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    Quoting: Redstinger
    You definitely don't put Larkin at 3C


    That's not what's being asked here.
     
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