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Trouba

Créé par: xercuses
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 sept. 2021
Publié: 11 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Trouba, Jacob
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Schenn, Brayden
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
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STL
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Skinner, Hunter
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
SEA
  1. Kreider, Chris (2 500 000 $ retained)
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    11 sept. 2021 à 0 h 51
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    Trouba waiving NMC for OTT. lol.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 0 h 57
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    Yeah, not touching that Trouba contract with a 50ft pole. I'll take Zub every day of the week.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 6
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Yeah, not touching that Trouba contract with a 50ft pole. I'll take Zub every day of the week.


    And you can have him. Rangers happy to keep Trouba. Ridicules trade.
    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 10
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    And you can have him. Rangers happy to keep Trouba. Ridicules trade.


    They’re definitely not happy about it, but they’re stuck with him.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 35
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    Quoting: mvp13
    Trouba waiving NMC for OTT. lol.


    Honestly yea i could see him waiving if he wants a fresh start and OTT is on the up i think he be the perfect pair with Chabot tbh
    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 36
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    Quoting: delneggs
    And you can have him. Rangers happy to keep Trouba. Ridicules trade.


    Every single trade here makes the rangers better long term and short term
    Only problems are Trouba and Kreider might not waive tho i could see them doing it for both these teams
    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 37
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Yeah, not touching that Trouba contract with a 50ft pole. I'll take Zub every day of the week.


    Is trouba really that bad that a first and a second doesnt convince you
    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 55
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    They’re definitely not happy about it, but they’re stuck with him.


    U know squat.
    11 sept. 2021 à 1 h 56
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    Quoting: xercuses
    Every single trade here makes the rangers better long term and short term
    Only problems are Trouba and Kreider might not waive tho i could see them doing it for both these teams


    In your opinion, not mine.
    11 sept. 2021 à 2 h 3
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    Quoting: delneggs
    In your opinion, not mine.


    well yea but this team just is alot better in every way give me some reasons as to why its not
    11 sept. 2021 à 2 h 5
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    I usually ignore NTC because we don’t know what players will do, and anything is possible, but Trouba waiving is really unlikely.

    As for Trouba’s future, I see a buyout at some point.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 2 h 9
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    I’m not sure why everyone thinks Trouba is drastically overpaid. He’s slightly overpaid. If he was at 7.25-7.5 nobody would bat an eye. Sure that 8 mil figure isn’t pretty, but he’s turned into a shutdown defensemen for us.
    11 sept. 2021 à 2 h 17
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    Quoting: xercuses
    well yea but this team just is alot better in every way give me some reasons as to why its not


    You're trading away two team leaders in Kreider and Trouba (which will never happen with their NMC) both of which can also play physical and stand up for teammates, which the Rangers need TO KEEP, plus Chytil who is 21, plus 2 first round picks and 2 2nd round picks plus retaining salary on Krieder for Tarasenko who is injury prone PLUS they don't need another winger. He would take a spot from Kakko or Kravstov in top 6, which is NOT better long term for the team. Schenn is 30 and signed for 8 years at that cap, which is worse than the cap situation you seem to want out of with Kreider, and Zub has played all of 47 games in the NHL. The team gets OLDER, less physical, and doesn't really improve the cap situation much at all. Plus you give away the near future trading away 1st and 2nd round picks. Bad deal all the way around in my opinion. I'm sure you see it differently, but I wouldn't do any of these deals.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 2 h 52
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    Quoting: xercuses
    Is trouba really that bad that a first and a second doesnt convince you


    At best He's like a 4-5mil Dman who got paid WAY more than he was worth off of one huge offensive season. Also it's not like like the offer is just a 1st and 2nd to take Trouba's deal. You're also asking for a 25 year top 4 defensive D who is far and away Ottawa's best RD. Zub should be worth at least a 1st to Ottawa, who absolutely can't afford to part with him (not suggesting anyone would offer a 1st necessarily, but that's where his valueis to the team).

    I'm sure there's a scenario where it makes Sens for a team to make a trade for Trouba, but Ottawa definitely isn't that team, and I'm not sure that deal sees the Rangers bringing a younger, more valuable RD in the process.
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    11 sept. 2021 à 8 h 52
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    Quoting: delneggs
    U know squat.


    You are literally the only person that thinks this. Trouba’ s own mother would admit the rangers would love to be out from that contract.
    11 sept. 2021 à 8 h 53
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    Honestly yea i could see him waiving if he wants a fresh start and OTT is on the up i think he be the perfect pair with Chabot tbh


    Hes been ridiculous adamant that he doesn’t want to play in canada. It’s why he forced his way out of winnipeg in the first place.
    11 sept. 2021 à 12 h 13
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    You are literally the only person that thinks this. Trouba’ s own mother would admit the rangers would love to be out from that contract.


    Proof that you know squat.
    11 sept. 2021 à 14 h 30
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    Proof that you know squat.


    So you think everyone else in the hockey world is wrong, and you’re right? You should apply for a job as a GM.
    11 sept. 2021 à 15 h 23
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    So you think everyone else in the hockey world is wrong, and you’re right? You should apply for a job as a GM.


    No, I think what you posted is 100% wrong. How you interpret that to mean I think everyone is wrong is your intellectual failing.
    11 sept. 2021 à 15 h 25
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    No, I think what you posted is 100% wrong. How you interpret that to mean I think everyone is wrong is your intellectual failing.


    I’ve never encountered someone that thinks trouba and his contract represent anything but negative value. I think you’re all alone on this one.
    11 sept. 2021 à 15 h 46
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    I’ve never encountered someone that thinks trouba and his contract represent anything but negative value. I think you’re all alone on this one.


    Get out of your closet more often.
    11 sept. 2021 à 15 h 51
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    Quoting: delneggs
    Get out of your closet more often.


    If you can find one other instance on this site, I’ll be shocked. This is just you pal. Must not have watched him play much the last couple years.
    11 sept. 2021 à 16 h 2
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    If you can find one other instance on this site, I’ll be shocked. This is just you pal. Must not have watched him play much the last couple years.


    I have seen every game he has played as a Ranger. I guarantee if you surveyed the entire Ranger organization, from Dolan on down to the equipment managers, and including all the coaching staff and players, they would all say (100% of them) that they are very happy to have Trouba on the team and don't regret signing him at all. If you're referring to the morons that post on this forum, the all I can say is, who cares? 99% of people that post here about the Rangers know NOTHING about the team or hockey in general.
    11 sept. 2021 à 16 h 31
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    Quoting: delneggs
    I have seen every game he has played as a Ranger. I guarantee if you surveyed the entire Ranger organization, from Dolan on down to the equipment managers, and including all the coaching staff and players, they would all say (100% of them) that they are very happy to have Trouba on the team and don't regret signing him at all. If you're referring to the morons that post on this forum, the all I can say is, who cares? 99% of people that post here about the Rangers know NOTHING about the team or hockey in general.


    Okay, so maybe you haven’t watched without the blue and red glasses. His contract stinks. He’s the 10th highest paid d man, and is 68th in TOI (81st and even strength), and that’s playing for a bad team…good players play.
    11 sept. 2021 à 18 h 18
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    Okay, so maybe you haven’t watched without the blue and red glasses. His contract stinks. He’s the 10th highest paid d man, and is 68th in TOI (81st and even strength), and that’s playing for a bad team…good players play.


    Like I said originally......you know squat.
     
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