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Making a wild guess on Leafs and Bruins rumors

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Date de création initiale: sep 10, 2021
Publié: 10 sep à 11 h 41
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Explications
Not saying its happening but makes more sense than the stand alone rumors. And would not be full trade.
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Rielly, Morgan
TOR
  1. Subban, P.K. (4 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Leafs have been rumored to Subban for last few days. Recently there have been some rumors to Subban replacing Morgan Rielly, who could be moved.

(I am guessing there would be other pieces to this, maybe from Boston)
2.
NJD
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
BOS
  1. Rielly, Morgan
Détails additionnels:
Bruins have also been linked to a possible Devils trade and the return for NJ has been said to be Debrusk.

(Again there would likely be other pieces to all this)
Rachats de contrats
  • Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • P.K. Subban: 4 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Will Butcher: 910 569 $ (24%)
Frais appliqués
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
EDM
NYI
CBJ
NJD
NJD
2023
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
2024
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $69 328 068 $0 $3 440 000 $12 171 932 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
2 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Hischier, Nico
7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
NJD
Tatar, Tomas
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NJD
Hughes, Jack
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 2
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
3 675 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
NJD
Kuokkanen, Janne
1 825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
NJD
Clarke, Graeme
850 833 $
AD, C
RFA - 3
NJD
Wood, Miles
2 750 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
NJD
Mcleod, Michael
975 000 $
C
RFA - 2
NJD
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NJD
Graves, Ryan
3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
NJD
Hamilton, Dougie
9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
2 800 000 $
G
RFA - 2
NJD
Siegenthaler, Jonas
1 125 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NJD
Severson, Damon
4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
NJD
Bernier, Jonathan
4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 2
NJD
Bahl, Kevin
795 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NJD
Smith, Ty
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NJD
Boqvist, Jesper
925 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
NJD
Studenic, Marian
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NJD
Jaros, Christian
800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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10 sep à 11 h 43
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both of these are a joke
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10 sep à 11 h 47
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Dubas as good as said the Subban rumor is bullsh*t.
10 sep à 11 h 54
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Quoting: vr1995
both of these are a joke


Maybe read what I said first.
These are not two separate deals.
And there would likely be other pieces involved.

Subban for Rielly rumor makes no sense.
Subban for Debrusk rumor also makes no sense.
But combined, there is a sliver of plausibility.
10 sep à 11 h 56
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Dubas as good as said the Subban rumor is bullsh*t.


He said he is not talking about anyone under contract with another team, no? I did not listen to the podcast.
10 sep à 11 h 56
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The Rielly trade makes absolutely zero sense. Trade for a worse pending UFA then the one you already have? Unless it's a significant player or draft pick accompanying him, there's just no reason.
10 sep à 12 h 01
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
He said he is not talking about anyone under contract with another team, no? I did not listen to the podcast.


Basically said they haven't had any discussions about anyone that's only got a year left on their deal. That's pretty standard for Dubas. He's shown a disinclination to deal for rentals in the past, which I support. Last he really went against that supposedly because of the expansion draft, which I didn't agree with, but seems to be back to his old ideology.
10 sep à 12 h 03
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Quoting: newballcoach
The Rielly trade makes absolutely zero sense. Trade for a worse pending UFA then the one you already have? Unless it's a significant player or draft pick accompanying him, there's just no reason.


Of course.
I read one article that suggested it was Subban/Graves for Rielly. That would seem strange as Devils just acquired Graves.

I really just mashing up two rumors that are very likely into one move here.
10 sep à 12 h 07
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Basically said they haven't had any discussions about anyone that's only got a year left on their deal. That's pretty standard for Dubas. He's shown a disinclination to deal for rentals in the past, which I support. Last he really went against that supposedly because of the expansion draft, which I didn't agree with, but seems to be back to his old ideology.


Well then, “not discussing players with one-year” would nix all three of these players.

So maybe I’m off a bit.
10 sep à 12 h 11
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Well then, “not discussing players with one-year” would nix all three of these players.

So maybe I’m off a bit.


Really it would only nix Subban. I think it was in the context of bringing someone into the fold, and Debrusk remains an RFA, and even though he said 'one year left', it seems pretty likely that he was referencing the expiration of rights.
10 sep à 12 h 14
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god the trades on this site are actively getting worse.
10 sep à 12 h 19
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Leafs laugh at this trade
10 sep à 12 h 24
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Really it would only nix Subban. I think it was in the context of bringing someone into the fold, and Debrusk remains an RFA, and even though he said 'one year left', it seems pretty likely that he was referencing the expiration of rights.


Morgan Rielly has one year left, so covers him too?
10 sep à 12 h 28
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Morgan Rielly has one year left, so covers him too?


No, cause it was in the context of bringing players in, not sending them out, iirc.
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10 sep à 12 h 30
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Quoting: HtotheBtotheM
god the trades on this site are actively getting worse.


Maybe the users are reading less and less

Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs laugh at this trade


There is no trade to laugh at.
These are just a couple of pieces that could be involved.
10 sep à 12 h 31
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Maybe the users are reading less and less



There is no trade to laugh at.
These are just a couple of pieces that could be involved.


Leafs aren't trading their top defensemen for a an overpaid defensemen. Package starts with Wood and Graves
10 sep à 12 h 52
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
No, cause it was in the context of bringing players in, not sending them out, iirc.


This was the quote. Hard to read much into it without knowing the context in which it was said.

Quoting: Dubas
"I could definitively say that we have not thought a single thing about any player that's going to be a free agent a year from now,"
10 sep à 12 h 55
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs aren't trading their top defensemen for a an overpaid defensemen. Package starts with Wood and Graves


…and continues with Leafs adding Amirov? Sandin?
10 sep à 13 h 36
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The rumor of Boston being interested in Subban came from Joe "the hack" Haggerty. A homeless person on the street that doesn't know what NHL stands for has more credibility.
10 sep à 13 h 39
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Quoting: ON3M4N
The rumor of Boston being interested in Subban came from Joe "the hack" Haggerty. A homeless person on the street that doesn't know what NHL stands for has more credibility.


I don’t know anything about Joe Haggerty.
But the rumor has been coming from a lot of places.

Would be a strange fit though
10 sep à 13 h 49
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I don’t know anything about Joe Haggerty.
But the rumor has been coming from a lot of places.

Would be a strange fit though


Count yourself lucky you don't know anything about HACKerty lol. He's a click-bait "insider" that writes stuff just to generate clicks and views so his company can sell ads. His "source" is his equally non-respected co-worker Jimmy "thin skin" Murphy. You're 100% right, it would be a strange fit.
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