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Forsberg to Toronto

Créé par: Canuckfan98
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2021
Publié: 10 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Stecher, Troy (800 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Biega, Alex
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip (3 000 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Kase, Ondrej
  2. Mikheyev, Ilya
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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Logo de TOR
2024
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Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $80 924 783 $0 $0 $575 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Predators de Nashville
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1

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10 sept. 2021 à 0 h 40
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why would the leafs give up robertson for a year of Forsberg
10 sept. 2021 à 0 h 43
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Thanks for the second rounder, but now Detroit has somehow increased their amount of defensemen from "too many" to "Jon Cooper in the playoffs"
10 sept. 2021 à 0 h 45
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Quoting: OnFoenem34
why would the leafs give up robertson for a year of Forsberg


Cause they want to win a cup
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10 sept. 2021 à 0 h 57
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Thanks for the second rounder, but now Detroit has somehow increased their amount of defensemen from "too many" to "Jon Cooper in the playoffs"


you can flip dermott for a pick or two and biega is a warm body and a call up incase of injuries
10 sept. 2021 à 1 h 19
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Cause they want to win a cup


they can make an addition without giving up robertson
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10 sept. 2021 à 1 h 31
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Quoting: OnFoenem34
they can make an addition without giving up robertson


a 1st round pick at half retained probably gets beat by another team but if it's a buyers market then getting Forsberg without giving up Robertson would be great but tbh I'm not that high on him.
10 sept. 2021 à 2 h 14
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a 1st round pick at half retained probably gets beat by another team but if it's a buyers market then getting Forsberg without giving up Robertson would be great but tbh I'm not that high on him.


robertson is gonna be a stud, no reason to not be high on him, he hasnt showed anything besides elite upside, hes been nhl ready since he was 18
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10 sept. 2021 à 2 h 36
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robertson is gonna be a stud, no reason to not be high on him, he hasnt showed anything besides elite upside, hes been nhl ready since he was 18


Regardless if you think he's gonna be good in the future he isn't going to be better than Forsberg this year and considering Toronto is on a win-now period I believe this trade makes sense unless you have a different prospect you think they should trade id be curious to hear.
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10 sept. 2021 à 3 h 7
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Quoting: Canuckfan98
Regardless if you think he's gonna be good in the future he isn't going to be better than Forsberg this year and considering Toronto is on a win-now period I believe this trade makes sense unless you have a different prospect you think they should trade id be curious to hear.

you dont make moves like that, it messes up the makeup of the franchise, i think hirvonen/abramov/abrussezze makes more sense
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10 sept. 2021 à 3 h 48
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you dont make moves like that, it messes up the makeup of the franchise, i think hirvonen/abramov/abrussezze makes more sense


I'd be for it but depends if Nashville bites on it tbh
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10 sept. 2021 à 6 h 41
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Me: Not usin my last retained salary on Troy to ya'll folks [unless that 2nd turns to a 1st ;]

Poile: That's spicy enuf for me, dealsies bud.
10 sept. 2021 à 7 h 38
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too much for both
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10 sept. 2021 à 7 h 55
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Quoting: Yzerphyuk
Me: Not usin my last retained salary on Troy to ya'll folks [unless that 2nd turns to a 1st ;]

Poile: That's spicy enuf for me, dealsies bud.


Detroit has only used one retention spot so they would have two more left and after the Stecher trade they would have 1 not 0
10 sept. 2021 à 8 h 1
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Quoting: Canuckfan98
Detroit has only used one retention spot so they would have two more left and after the Stecher trade they would have 1 not 0


totally forgot Savard is off the books. Still think if Stetcher plays well DET wants a 1st for him in return rather than more warm bodies.
10 sept. 2021 à 8 h 3
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Quoting: Yzerphyuk
totally forgot Savard is off the books. Still think if Stetcher plays well DET wants a 1st for him in return rather than more warm bodies.


I like Stecher but I don't see him returning a 1st but you could flip Dermott for a 2nd and package the 2nd you get from Toronto and whatever team you trade Dermott to for a 1st
10 sept. 2021 à 8 h 10
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I like Stecher but I don't see him returning a 1st but you could flip Dermott for a 2nd and package the 2nd you get from Toronto and whatever team you trade Dermott to for a 1st


that doesn't make sense from value aspect... so Stecher is worth a 2nd, but Dermott is worth a 2nd and you want to exchange him for Troy who you don't think is worth more?

And then why would DET trade a friendly deal within division by accepting warm bodies as return vs futures?
10 sept. 2021 à 8 h 18
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Quoting: Yzerphyuk
that doesn't make sense from value aspect... so Stecher is worth a 2nd, but Dermott is worth a 2nd and you want to exchange him for Troy who you don't think is worth more?

And then why would DET trade a friendly deal within division by accepting warm bodies as return vs futures?


I think value wise they are similar but I'd give the edge to Stecher but the reason I'd make this trade is because of the cap, as for in division trades I don't think Yzerman cares cause he knows that Detroit isn't competing for 1-2 more years and most likely that Toronto won't be able to re-sign Stecher unless they get rid of Rielly. These moves are purely made for this year for the leafs and for the red wings this gives them more draft capital in a deep draft year.
10 sept. 2021 à 8 h 22
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Quoting: Canuckfan98
I think value wise they are similar but I'd give the edge to Stecher but the reason I'd make this trade is because of the cap, as for in division trades I don't think Yzerman cares cause he knows that Detroit isn't competing for 1-2 more years and most likely that Toronto won't be able to re-sign Stecher unless they get rid of Rielly. These moves are purely made for this year for the leafs and for the red wings this gives them more draft capital in a deep draft year.


right but why would DET lessen their futures value in a trade with Stetcher by absorbing warm bodies which they have plenty already ? That's why I consider this a friendly deal and therefore why to TOR from DET?
 
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