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Isles Targets on Defense

Créé par: slapshot723
Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 9 sept. 2021
Publié: 9 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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What are the asking prices for the defensemen listed below?
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 729 188 $1 365 854 $1 325 000 $1 770 812 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Islanders de New York
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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9 sept. 2021 à 14 h 48
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All of them make sense except Scandella(he’s awful) and Brannstrom (Unfortunately Trotz would never play a 5’9 Dman)
9 sept. 2021 à 14 h 49
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What’s being done for the cal space to acquire a defenseman?
9 sept. 2021 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
What’s being done for the cal space to acquire a defenseman?


They can bury komarov + Hickey
9 sept. 2021 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Db1899
They can bury komarov + Hickey


Fair enough

Just wasn’t sure myself
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9 sept. 2021 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
What’s being done for the cal space to acquire a defenseman?


Moving Komarov or Hickey in a deal or having the other team retain salary. Crazy case would be moving Varlamov but I can't see that happening.
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9 sept. 2021 à 15 h 11
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Modifié 9 sept. 2021 à 16 h 29
Erik Brannstrom is surprising as he's quite similar to Aho, he's basically a better Aho.

There's a few players that could interest the Sens

Wahlstrom, Oliver
Dobson, Noah
Mayfield, Scott
Bailey, Josh

What would it take on top of Brannstrom for each to make it work?

Quoting: Db1899
All of them make sense except Scandella(he’s awful) and Brannstrom (Unfortunately Trotz would never play a 5’9 Dman)


Brannstrom is the exact same size as Sebastian Aho
9 sept. 2021 à 15 h 17
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Chiarot for a 2cnd
9 sept. 2021 à 15 h 20
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Erik Brannstrom is surprising as he's quite similar to Aho, he's basically a better Aho.

The a few players that could interest the Sens

Wahlstrom, Oliver
Dobson, Noah
Mayfield, Scott
Bailey, Josh

What would it take on top of Brannstrom for each to make it work?



Brannstrom is the exact same size as Sebastian Aho


He’s an inch shorter than Aho. Go look how many games Aho has played over the last two seasons. I’m pretty sure the isles consider Dobson and Wahlstrom close to untouchable
9 sept. 2021 à 15 h 30
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We just moved our long term (2 years) cap dump. Why would we trade for another (scandella)?
9 sept. 2021 à 16 h 13
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The habs would need a better D coming in before moving Kulak. Otherwise, he’d cost a mid-round pick.
9 sept. 2021 à 16 h 19
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from Mtl: Kulak & Armia for Bailey?
9 sept. 2021 à 16 h 30
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Quoting: Db1899
He’s an inch shorter than Aho. Go look how many games Aho has played over the last two seasons. I’m pretty sure the isles consider Dobson and Wahlstrom close to untouchable


Advice #xx : never look at hockey db for hockey players measurements. Brannstrom has been listed 5'10 in training camps and development camps. He's also 5'10 on EliteProspects, Hockey Reference, etc

I'm ready to give something substantial on top of Brannstrom to get Dobson (need a partner for Chabot). Problem is the Isles want to compete now and picks/prospects wouldn't help.

Actually, what about this lol (would never happen but for fun)

Brady Tkachuk + Erik Brannstrom + another piece (depending on Isles needs)

for

Noah Dobson + Anthony Beauvillier
9 sept. 2021 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Advice #334 : never look at hockey db for hockey players measurements


Fair enough - Trotz won’t play Aho despite the fact that he’s been NHL ready for 2 years so he won’t play Brannstrom.
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It's hard to put a specific value on a defenseman because the Ristolainen trade throws perception out of whack.

Based on that overpay, I'd say Hampus Lindholm is worth a first, a second and a good prospect, but not Wahlstrom or Dobson. I'd love to get a second and one of them for Hampus, but I don't think that the Islanders are eager or likely to accept that.

I'd be happy with something like a first, a second or third, and one of Simon Holmstrom or Bode Wilde for Hampus with 50% retained.
9 sept. 2021 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Erik Brannstrom is surprising as he's quite similar to Aho, he's basically a better Aho.

There's a few players that could interest the Sens

Wahlstrom, Oliver
Dobson, Noah
Mayfield, Scott
Bailey, Josh

What would it take on top of Brannstrom for each to make it work?

Brannstrom is the exact same size as Sebastian Aho


Seems like Brannstrom is much better than Aho. I wouldn't make any of those moves, I was thinking something around Bellows and Brannstrom.

Quoting: seanross
Chiarot for a 2cnd


I'd do a 3rd.

Quoting: UBS_ARENA
We just moved our long term (2 years) cap dump. Why would we trade for another (scandella)?


I've always been a Scandella fan and he plays a style I think would fit with Dobson. Plus, he'd cost nothing, maybe even a swap of Komarov and Hickey for Scandella. St. Louis gains a little cap but loses two cap dumps in one year. Isles get a defenseman who can play everyday at less than $4M.

Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The habs would need a better D coming in before moving Kulak. Otherwise, he’d cost a mid-round pick.


I'd do a mid-round pick like a 4th.

Quoting: DomCholette
from Mtl: Kulak & Armia for Bailey?


Hell no.

Quoting: Xspyrit
Advice #xx : never look at hockey db for hockey players measurements. Brannstrom has been listed 5'10 in training camps and development camps. He's also 5'10 on EliteProspects, Hockey Reference, etc

I'm ready to give something substantial on top of Brannstrom to get Dobson (need a partner for Chabot). Problem is the Isles want to compete now and picks/prospects wouldn't help.

Actually, what about this lol (would never happen but for fun)

Brady Tkachuk + Erik Brannstrom + another piece (depending on Isles needs)

for

Noah Dobson + Anthony Beauvillier


Enticing but no. I'd rather have Dobson and Beauvillier, even though Tkachuk is the best player in the deal. Makes no sense for the Isles to move Dobson, and Beauvillier is at a reasonable contract.
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9 sept. 2021 à 18 h 23
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Quoting: slapshot723
Seems like Brannstrom is much better than Aho. I wouldn't make any of those moves, I was thinking something around Bellows and Brannstrom.


Don't think the Sens would be very interested in Bellows, at least not for Brannstrom. For Logan Brown maybe just not to have to hear Jeff Brown anymore lol

Quoting: slapshot723
Enticing but no. I'd rather have Dobson and Beauvillier, even though Tkachuk is the best player in the deal. Makes no sense for the Isles to move Dobson, and Beauvillier is at a reasonable contract.


I see... but these guys will get expensive too!
11 sept. 2021 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: seanross
Chiarot for a 2cnd


Chiarot Is worth more than a 2nd even as a rental right now. He was 2nd in the playoff in TOI (and averaged more icetime than Hedman who was first).

We saw last TDL Savard was worth a 1st and 3rd. Thats the starting point.
 
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