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What is Dumoulin worth from every team -part 1-

Créé par: Imagine875948
Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 8 sept. 2021
Publié: 8 sept. 2021
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Description
This is just for fun. So Dumoulin isn't getting traded, but people have been undervaluing Dumo. Hes one of the most underrated defenseman in the league.
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PIT
  1. Perreault, Jacob
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
Détails additionnels:
This is without retension. ANA 1st is gonna be worth alot so we cant get a 1st from teams who are projected to be a bottom 10 team.
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PIT
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
ARI
    Dumoulin, Brian

    Again, ARI 1st is gonna be worth alot so we cant get it.
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    1. Zboril, Jakub
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
    BOS
      Dumoulin, Brian

      BOS is gonna be good, I think they will make the playoffs making their pick a bottom 15 pick
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      PIT
      1. Samuelsson, Mattias
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
      3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
      BUF
        Dumoulin, Brian

        No way we getting BUF 1st. End of story
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        PIT
        1. Zary, Connor
        2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
        3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
        CGY
          Dumoulin, Brian
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          PIT
          1. Bokk, Dominik
          2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
          CAR
            Dumoulin, Brian

            CAR is gonna be good. There making he playoffs and I'm sure they will for the next couple years
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            PIT
            1. Beaudin, Nicolas
            2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
            3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
            CHI
              Dumoulin, Brian
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              PIT
              1. Kaut, Martin
              2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
              COL
                Dumoulin, Brian
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                PIT
                1. Foudy, Liam
                2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
                3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
                CBJ
                  Dumoulin, Brian
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                  PIT
                  1. Dellandrea, Ty
                  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
                  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
                  DAL
                    Dumoulin Brian
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 8 h 27
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                    What can each team overpay for our player? No
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 8 h 58
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                    Quoting: Skull_King
                    What can each team overpay for our player? No


                    It's not an overpay, its facts. Dumoulin is one of the most underrated defenseman in the league. Hes also one of the best top pairing dman in the league as well
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 2
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                    It's not an overpay, its facts. Dumoulin is one of the most underrated defenseman in the league. Hes also one of the best top pairing dman in the league as well


                    Sorry but there are better top pairing defenseman in the league than Dumo. Slavin, Pelech, Pulock, just off the top of my head are miles better.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 4
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                    Sorry but there are better top pairing defenseman in the league than Dumo. Slavin, Pelech, Pulock, just off the top of my head are miles better.


                    Notice how I said, ONE of the best. Hes top 5 easily and I'm saying hes the best defensman either. Hes just VERY underrated and people dont see how he is. Hes a great defenseman that will stay in PIT till his contract is up
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                    Notice how I said, ONE of the best. Hes top 5 easily and I'm saying hes the best defensman either. Hes just VERY underrated and people dont see how he is. Hes a great defenseman that will stay in PIT till his contract is up


                    I do agree with the statement that he is one of the most underrated defenseman, but defensively, he isn’t as good as Slavin, Pesce, Pelech, Pulock, Hedman, Josi, Makar, only to name a few. Face it, he isn’t a top 5 dman in the league, neither defensively or offensively.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 11
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                    Boston has no need for him.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 13
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    It's not an overpay, its facts. Dumoulin is one of the most underrated defenseman in the league. Hes also one of the best top pairing dman in the league as well


                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    Notice how I said, ONE of the best. Hes top 5 easily and I'm saying hes the best defensman either. Hes just VERY underrated and people dont see how he is. Hes a great defenseman that will stay in PIT till his contract is up



                    Lol, no he isn;t. He’s underrated yes. Not top 5, thats laughable. He’s a very good #2/3 type.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 38
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                    I do agree with the statement that he is one of the most underrated defenseman, but defensively, he isn’t as good as Slavin, Pesce, Pelech, Pulock, Hedman, Josi, Makar, only to name a few. Face it, he isn’t a top 5 dman in the league, neither defensively or offensively.


                    That's not what I said, but keep throwing words in my mouth.
                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 38
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                    I wouldn’t say he is one of the best but is definitely massively underrated and a solid 1st pair defensive defenseman that would be a great compliment to any offensive or two way defenseman. There is no real point in trading him to a bottom 10 team. They are all rebuilding and wouldn’t want him anyway unless he was traded as a cap dump, which the pens wouldn’t do since he is on a real good contract. But he can definitely return at least a 1st from a contender.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 39
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                    Lol, no he isn;t. He’s underrated yes. Not top 5, thats laughable. He’s a very good #2/3 type.


                    Again, hes a top 5 top pairing dman. He works well on the top pair and he fits well, that's what it means.
                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 40
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                    Boston has no need for him.


                    If you read the description, it said it was just for fun
                    8 sept. 2021 à 9 h 53
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    It's not an overpay, its facts. Dumoulin is one of the most underrated defenseman in the league. Hes also one of the best top pairing dman in the league as well


                    You can say he’s underrated, but you can’t say that he’s one of the best top pairing D in the NHL. That would imply he’s a #1 defenseman.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 10 h 1
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                    Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
                    You can say he’s underrated, but you can’t say that he’s one of the best top pairing D in the NHL. That would imply he’s a #1 defenseman.


                    Why does nobody seem to understand. By top pairing dman I meant ge works REALLY well there and has great chemistry on the top pair. I didnt mean that he was a better defenseman than Hedman since he plays 1st pair. Not what I meant at all
                    8 sept. 2021 à 10 h 14
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    It's not an overpay, its facts. Dumoulin is one of the most underrated defenseman in the league. Hes also one of the best top pairing dman in the league as well


                    These aren't facts lol. It's conjecture.
                    8 sept. 2021 à 10 h 21
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                    These aren't facts lol. It's conjecture.


                    In done, if nobody wants to listen then I'm not going to explain for the 10000th time.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 10 h 30
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                    In done, if nobody wants to listen then I'm not going to explain for the 10000th time.


                    You're the one spewing nonsense. Perhaps you don't understand what a fact is, since there is absolutely nothing that supports your claim.

                    Pure conjecture.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 10 h 32
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                    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
                    You're the one spewing nonsense. Perhaps you don't understand what a fact is, since there is absolutely nothing that supports your claim.

                    Pure conjecture.


                    Again, Dumoulinisnt better than most top pairing dman, but that's not what I said. What I meant was hes a great top pairing guy. He works well in the top pair and his chemistry is great on the top pair as well. His fit in the top pair is top 5 in the league. Does it make sense now?
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    Why does nobody seem to understand. By top pairing dman I meant ge works REALLY well there and has great chemistry on the top pair. I didnt mean that he was a better defenseman than Hedman since he plays 1st pair. Not what I meant at all


                    That’s great if he works well on the top pair. So does Joel Edmundson. But if you’re saying that he’s “one of the best top pairing D in the league”, that implies that he’s among the best out of the 64 NHL D that play on top pairs. While he may be a pretty good defenseman, he’s not a top 30 D in the league. Better just to say that he has really good chemistry with Letang, and can play against tough competition.
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    In done, if nobody wants to listen then I'm not going to explain for the 10000th time.


                    I guess I'm just curious by what metrics you think he's one of the top d-men in the league? I don't disagree that he's underrated, and that he's solid enough, but there's absolutely nothing that stands out about him to even put him in the top 25, let alone the top 10.
                    8 sept. 2021 à 11 h 2
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                    I guess I'm just curious by what metrics you think he's one of the top d-men in the league? I don't disagree that he's underrated, and that he's solid enough, but there's absolutely nothing that stands out about him to even put him in the top 25, let alone the top 10.


                    Again, Dumoulin isnt better than most top pairing dman, but that's not what I said. What I meant was hes a great top pairing guy. He works well in the top pair and his chemistry is great on the top pair as well. His fit in the top pair is top 5 in the league. Does it make sense now?
                    8 sept. 2021 à 11 h 19
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                    Quoting: Imagine875948
                    Again, Dumoulin isnt better than most top pairing dman, but that's not what I said. What I meant was hes a great top pairing guy. He works well in the top pair and his chemistry is great on the top pair as well. His fit in the top pair is top 5 in the league. Does it make sense now?


                    I get what you're saying, but that chemistry won't carry over to other teams, it's just that pair.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 12 h 30
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                    Again, Dumoulin isnt better than most top pairing dman, but that's not what I said. What I meant was hes a great top pairing guy. He works well in the top pair and his chemistry is great on the top pair as well. His fit in the top pair is top 5 in the league. Does it make sense now?


                    Again. That is not a fact, as you claimed. You said he is a top five defense men, maybe you mean in the KHL, because he isn't that in the NHL. You've also said he is a top five pairing defensemen, which would mean is he is a bottom pairing guy.

                    Your Homer is showing. And you have yet to provide one piece of evidence that supports your "facts"
                    8 sept. 2021 à 12 h 34
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                    What good is saying a player is one of the best if no one other than Pens fans believe it?

                    Not saying he isn't good, he is but unless you can prove to X% of the rest of league that Dumo is better than we think, it doesn't really matter what you think.

                    Remember you are trying to convince US he's worth a 1st and a prospect. X% of the league is saying they don't agree. So convince us otherwise. Until then, he is worth exactly what someone other than Pittsburgh is willing to pay for him and if we take our only barometer (CF opinion) as basis for a valuation, not many if any will pay those prices above.
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 13 h 0
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                    Every team declines except maybe the Stars, and MAYBE the Avs imo. BOS maybe too
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                    8 sept. 2021 à 13 h 15
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                    Every team declines except maybe the Stars, and MAYBE the Avs imo. BOS maybe too


                    Fair enough. Except Dellandrea is probably better than all these prospect other than Zary and maybe Timmons. And maybe Beaudin
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