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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 6 sept. 2021
Publié: 6 sept. 2021
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Random idea that popped into my head while listening to the latest 31 thought podcast.
Would this be an even trade? or would TOR / OTT have to add more? Personally, I feel TOR would have to add more, but I just wanted a template of what the core deal would look like.
TOR gets the top Dman to a superb contract in case rielly leaves/gets traded next year, and gets Brady to fill the hole that Hyman left.
TOR also signs Brady to a 1 x $2.4 mill due to cap space and such, and will give him a massive pay raise once Kessel's contract comes off the books next year. (2.4 to 4 mill will be the one year, and he'll probably make 5.5-6 with the multi-year)

Ottawa gets their superstar they are looking for and can market, along with potential Top 4/2 dman in Sandin, and a late 1st rounder, in a draft that i believe is supposed to be solid next year (not 100% sure, just remember Marek mentioning something about that).
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  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
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6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 33
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Sens decline extremely quick
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wayyyyyy to little for tkachuk payment
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the offer and the contract... yikes
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Tkachuk's gonna want close to 7-8 this year, and then even if he accepts the 2.4, he's gonna want even more (8-9 maybe)
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Sens decline extremely quick


What would TOR have to add for it to balance out?
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In this scenario you don't have enough cap space to pay Tkachuk(maybe every scenario TBH) He would want closer to his brother's AAV on a bridge deal
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 35
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wayyyyyy to little for tkachuk payment


The contract you mean?
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Doesnt really work for either side, Ottawa loses two players that are the heart and soul of their team, pissing off the last shred of goodwill that the sens have, and the leafs lose out on value. Sandin is obviously not as good as Chabot, but in a couple of years if Sandin becomes the excellent top 4 d he can be than the difference between Marner and Tkachuk is too great for the difference between Chabot and Sandin to make it up. The first makes it even worst for toronto.
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I'm an Oilers fan and if I'm the Sens I'm blocking Dubas number if he tries this trade. And Tkachuk is not signing for pennies lol. You'll lose him to an offersheet so quickly
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Quoting: Gmonwy
In this scenario you don't have enough cap space to pay Tkachuk(maybe every scenario TBH) He would want closer to his brother's AAV on a bridge deal


7 mill is doable for the multi year. because Rielly and Kessel retainment come off the books
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 36
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The contract you mean?


Trade and contract tears of joy
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
I'm an Oilers fan and if I'm the Sens I'm blocking Dubas number if he tries this trade. And Tkachuk is not signing for pennies lol. You'll lose him to an offersheet so quickly


Lol just like how TOR would have lost the marner offer sheet? cmon now, theyve always been looming but GMS are too scared to actually do one
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 39
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Quoting: hazard
Lol just like how TOR would have lost the marner offer sheet? cmon now, theyve always been looming but GMS are too scared to actually do one


Well if all you're offering this year is 2.5 million Tkachuk's agent will get the word out and some team will only throw 5 - 7 million at him, which Toronto can't afford
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Quoting: HtotheBtotheM
Doesnt really work for either side, Ottawa loses two players that are the heart and soul of their team, pissing off the last shred of goodwill that the sens have, and the leafs lose out on value. Sandin is obviously not as good as Chabot, but in a couple of years if Sandin becomes the excellent top 4 d he can be than the difference between Marner and Tkachuk is too great for the difference between Chabot and Sandin to make it up. The first makes it even worst for toronto.


Im also taking into consideration that Melnyk owns the team and dont know if hell dish out the money for Brady. Don't forget, most of marners contract has already been paid for in actual dollars. its just the Cap hit thats high.
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
Well if all you're offering this year is 2.5 million Tkachuk's agent will get the word out and some team will only throw 5 - 7 million at him, which Toronto can't afford


Next year, Tor can afford that. Rielly and Kessel come off the books
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The contract you mean?


yeah
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: hazard
Next year, Tor can afford that. Rielly and Kessel come off the books


Yes but if Tkachuk and his agent want to play hardball you're so screwed. Even on a 1 or two year bridge he's getting 5
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 42
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That Tkachuk contract....
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Quoting: islandersfan14
yeah


The one year contract would be around 2.5 - 4 mill. I think its acceptable for the points he had and the fact that hell be getting alot of points playing with Matthews so hes money will increase.
The multi year I thought that hed be making close to/ more then Hyman money. 8 x 6.5 for example. Higher term, lower AAV
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Quoting: Devil1122
That Tkachuk contract....


Its a 1 year... hell be getting a multi year next year when rielly and Kessel come off the books. 8 x 6,5 or 7.5. something like hyman but more cause hes younger, 8th year, and so on
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Quoting: ovandatsyuk13
Yes but if Tkachuk and his agent want to play hardball you're so screwed. Even on a 1 or two year bridge he's getting 5


I think TOR could fit 4.5 under the cap, if they bury some contracts, so its not completely far off. Plus it gives him every chance to make him more on the next contract playing with Matthews no?
6 sept. 2021 à 16 h 54
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Yea no. Let's not give a local rival and in the same divison a top 5 winger, a top D prospect and a 1st for a *Decent* winger and a Top dman. The 1at for one would have to be on Ottawa side coming to the leafs ATLEAST


Edit: didn't even see the contract lol.
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Yea no. Let's not give a local rival and in the same divison a top 5 winger, a top D prospect and a 1st for a *Decent* winger and a Top dman. The 1at for one would have to be on Ottawa side coming to the leafs ATLEAST


No sir lol, Im a leafs fan and I can tell you, Leafs would have to give more. Brady is a rare power forward that everyone in the league is dying to have, and Chabots contract alone is perfect for the leafs. Marner is a superstar and a top 5-10 player in this league yes, but also a winger who plays with a superstar centre.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
Tkachuk's gonna want close to 7-8 this year, and then even if he accepts the 2.4, he's gonna want even more (8-9 maybe)


I cant see a scenario where Brady makes more than his brother Matthew. 7 would be the cieling
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Quoting: hazard
No sir lol, Im a leafs fan and I can tell you, Leafs would have to give more. Brady is a rare power forward that everyone in the league is dying to have, and Chabots contract alone is perfect for the leafs. Marner is a superstar and a top 5-10 player in this league yes, but also a winger who plays with a superstar centre.


I hate the "oh he plays with a superstar centre" yea most top wingers do because their top line. Our defense isn't the problem As much as I like Chabot. Marner > Tkachuk simple. I take the skill over Tkachuk who offensively isn't better than Nylander.
 
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