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Créé par: Storms
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2021
Publié: 4 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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1900 000 $
11 050 000 $
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TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (DET)
DET
  1. Engvall, Pierre
Détails additionnels:
Any Team that will take him
2.
NJD
  1. Brooks, Adam
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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4 sept. 2021 à 8 h 33
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Pleasantly surprised this wasn't another Rielly to NJD ACGM.
Not that it counts for much as the Zacha trade is quite bad in its own right, not enough value going back to the Devils. Decline.
For what its worth, you're making a mistake in putting Zacha as C.
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4 sept. 2021 à 8 h 57
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Zacha is not better than Kerfoot. This is the classic grass is always greener take. A guy who's never scored 40 points in the NHL is somehow going to be a huge upgrade over a player with so far better numbers in his career. Kerfoot and Zacha are essentially the same player.
4 sept. 2021 à 9 h 21
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I like that bottom 6. Maybe switch Kase and Spezza so Spezza is on a more offensive line but I like it.
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4 sept. 2021 à 9 h 30
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Devils don't want Kerfoot

And aren't trading Zacha for him
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4 sept. 2021 à 9 h 32
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No chance Devils do that
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4 sept. 2021 à 9 h 54
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Zacha is not better than Kerfoot. This is the classic grass is always greener take. A guy who's never scored 40 points in the NHL is somehow going to be a huge upgrade over a player with so far better numbers in his career. Kerfoot and Zacha are essentially the same player.


Same player.... Clearly haven't watched either of them play, and basing players of their point production is the laziest thing ever. Get out of here with your ''classic grass is always greener take''. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

As for the the trade, can't see NJ doing this. Zacha played really well once they moved him to the wing and he still have some potential to develop further. I think the Devils keep him unless they get a trade that is to good to pass on, and this ain't it.
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4 sept. 2021 à 10 h 17
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Zacha would be better as a winger with Tavaras and Nylander.

Devils aren't likely trading him anyway.
He found his groove as wing on Hischier's line last year (18 points in 17 games as Nico's LW)

Sign Travis Zajac or Tyler Bozak
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4 sept. 2021 à 10 h 29
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Zacha would be better as a winger with Tavaras and Nylander.

Devils aren't likely trading him anyway.
He found his groove as wing on Hischier's line last year (18 points in 17 games as Nico's LW)

Sign Travis Zajac or Tyler Bozak


No thank you to Zajac and Bozak, we have no need for them.
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4 sept. 2021 à 10 h 46
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Zacha is not better than Kerfoot. This is the classic grass is always greener take. A guy who's never scored 40 points in the NHL is somehow going to be a huge upgrade over a player with so far better numbers in his career. Kerfoot and Zacha are essentially the same player.


Yes he is, Zacha is 23 and paced 57 points this year. Kerfoot hasnt gotten close to that and the closest he has got was when he leeched 40% pf his points off the MacKinnon like on Colorado on the powerplay
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4 sept. 2021 à 11 h 56
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Why would any team pay for Engvall? They could have him on waivers for free
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4 sept. 2021 à 12 h 54
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With the offensive talent Toronto has you can't expect a bottom 6 player to have the same offensive output on a rebuilding team and I think Johnsson illustrated that perfectly.
4 sept. 2021 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: BallPuckFellow10
Same player.... Clearly haven't watched either of them play, and basing players of their point production is the laziest thing ever. Get out of here with your ''classic grass is always greener take''. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

As for the the trade, can't see NJ doing this. Zacha played really well once they moved him to the wing and he still have some potential to develop further. I think the Devils keep him unless they get a trade that is to good to pass on, and this ain't it.


They may play different but their impact is the same. Neither move the needle all that much.
4 sept. 2021 à 15 h 3
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Yes he is, Zacha is 23 and paced 57 points this year. Kerfoot hasnt gotten close to that and the closest he has got was when he leeched 40% pf his points off the MacKinnon like on Colorado on the powerplay


So what? They are depth players. The difference of impact between Zacha and Kerfoot is marginal. It certainly isn't a 2nd and another asset. That 2nd could easily be as good as either player. This is an expensive lateral move. Like 90% of moves on this site.
4 sept. 2021 à 15 h 43
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So what? They are depth players. The difference of impact between Zacha and Kerfoot is marginal. It certainly isn't a 2nd and another asset. That 2nd could easily be as good as either player. This is an expensive lateral move. Like 90% of moves on this site.


You're back pedaling
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4 sept. 2021 à 15 h 51
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So what? They are depth players. The difference of impact between Zacha and Kerfoot is marginal. It certainly isn't a 2nd and another asset. That 2nd could easily be as good as either player. This is an expensive lateral move. Like 90% of moves on this site.

Second round picks have a 34% chance of playing 99 games let alone quality being factored so I wouldn’t say your statement is remotely accurate.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/amp/
4 sept. 2021 à 17 h 54
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You're back pedaling


Zacha is a depth forward of little import. As is Kerfoot. Middle 6 players who can slide up and down aren't that hard to find. Whether they play different styles or not is irrelevant. Bend my words however you want to feel good but it doesn't matter. Besides that, we all know you rate anyone with a leaf on their chest low by default.
4 sept. 2021 à 17 h 55
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Second round picks have a 34% chance of playing 99 games let alone quality being factored so I wouldn’t say your statement is remotely accurate.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/amp/


So then Kerfoot is worth more than a 2nd since he's 100% an NHL player. Thanks for proving the point.
4 sept. 2021 à 18 h 29
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So then Kerfoot is worth more than a 2nd since he's 100% an NHL player. Thanks for proving the point.

NHL players with over 99 games played get traded all the time for less than a second rounder…. Merely pointing out most of your statements littered with inaccurate information and then you back pedal just like this comment.
4 sept. 2021 à 19 h 20
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NHL players with over 99 games played get traded all the time for less than a second rounder…. Merely pointing out most of your statements littered with inaccurate information and then you back pedal just like this comment.


Then Zacha isn't worth a 2nd
4 sept. 2021 à 19 h 56
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Then Zacha isn't worth a 2nd


Again, you completely miss the mark. I mentioned second round draft success because you said the following.

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
So what? They are depth players. The difference of impact between Zacha and Kerfoot is marginal. It certainly isn't a 2nd and another asset. That 2nd could easily be as good as either player. This is an expensive lateral move. Like 90% of moves on this site.


Has nothing to do with Kerfoot or Zacha’s value but your misrepresentation of value in second round picks. If the price difference between Kerfoot and Zacha is a second rounder I take Zacha all day.
4 sept. 2021 à 20 h 51
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Again, you completely miss the mark. I mentioned second round draft success because you said the following.



Has nothing to do with Kerfoot or Zacha’s value but your misrepresentation of value in second round picks. If the price difference between Kerfoot and Zacha is a second rounder I take Zacha all day.


The difference between the two is negligible, that's my point.
4 sept. 2021 à 20 h 58
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The difference between the two is negligible, that's my point.

Or most would take the younger more productive player that’s progressed every year. A second round pick is not the difference maker based on statistics of that pick even seeing the NHL.
4 sept. 2021 à 21 h 20
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Zacha is a depth forward of little import. As is Kerfoot. Middle 6 players who can slide up and down aren't that hard to find. Whether they play different styles or not is irrelevant. Bend my words however you want to feel good but it doesn't matter. Besides that, we all know you rate anyone with a leaf on their chest low by default.


Do you know what back pedaling is? You said Zacha was not better, you were proven wrong, and now you are try8ng to say that its irrelevant because they are both middle 6 players (which is untrue, middle 6 players are quite relevant). And now you are really reaching by resorting to slander
4 sept. 2021 à 22 h 30
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Or most would take the younger more productive player that’s progressed every year. A second round pick is not the difference maker based on statistics of that pick even seeing the NHL.


I don't even know what you are trying to prove here.
4 sept. 2021 à 23 h 15
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Do you know what back pedaling is? You said Zacha was not better, you were proven wrong, and now you are try8ng to say that its irrelevant because they are both middle 6 players (which is untrue, middle 6 players are quite relevant). And now you are really reaching by resorting to slander


I wasn't proven wrong. Zacha isn't anything special. He's a an ok depth player. So is Kerfoot. Neither moves the needle much but both are good to have around. It's a waste of assets to move Kerfoot and a 2nd for a marginal upgrade.
 
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