If I'm the Hawks I do the 1st trade.

Maybe, the hawks need one more LD that can play in the top 4, and potentially a 2nd line RW. This is a good package, but I have to imagine the hawks moving Strome would be for a top 4 LD or a middle 6 RW. This trade is a really solid offer, but I don't think the hawks brought in Jones, Fleury, and McCabe this season to take cap dumps. I'm not sure Panik can play that role anymore.

I don’t know, I don’t feel like this makes us significantly better. Strome and De Hann are both good players and we don’t seem to be getting players or assets of equal quality back. De Hann specifically is a good 2nd pair guy, and I don’t feel confident in anyone except for Beaudin to take his spot in the lineup. The first round pick is sure to be at the end of the round, and the prospect probably isn’t going to be better than De Hann.

Is de Haan that good. I always thought of him as a #4-5, like a decent/acceptable second pair guy or a good third pairing. Kinda deeper than a good second pairing. I'll admit I haven't seen much of him since he went to chi town

I should probably caveat that Toews needs to be ok...which is a clear assumption. As far as the deal goes. Bolduc is a really good prospect. I'd place him as another 1st round pick. The two cap dumps are indeed dumps, but the Hawks still have less cap. I don't think the Isles do it because they need to find a home for Leo. But I'd do it.

I feel Chicago could flip those picks for what you’d need. Though hearing this makes me wonder about a three way trade

I can comfortably guess Bolduc has a higher ceiling than de Haan’s current talent, especially when you consider how quickly de Haan’s playstyle will age him.

I feel like while yes, Chicago gets a bit worse here, these assets really help them along while losing assets they don’t need or are actively shopping.

Absolutely not from the Isles. Have no need for Strome and De Haan is worth at most a 3rd. Isles are not trading a 1st and their top d prospect for that.

Potentially, but cap would be very limited, so I'm not sure it would work for them.

Leddy was better, De Haan would be a down grade. There's a reason Lou let him walk in free agency.

hawks accept

Here’s how I hash it out:

3rd= Take Paník and Hickey (it’d normally be more, but taking on de Haan’s contract does a lot to make it a 3rd)
Bolduc=de Haan
1st=Strome

I feel like the only part of that that’s bad for the Isles is Bolduc for de Haan… maybe Aho instead of Bolduc in this trade?

Isles don’t need to dump contracts they can bury them and save cap.

De Haan is not even close to Bolducs value.

Isles have no need, nor want strome.

They’ll need to dump cap if they add, and they really should add given how close they are to a Cup.

In retrospect, yeah, Bolduc is way more valuable. I’m thinking Aho instead by this point.

Isles don’t need Strome specifically, but with as many older forwards as they have, they might want to consider adding a guy who’ll still be good even after Lee, Bailey, Palmieri, etc are all too old to contribute like they used to.

The Isles forwards are set, and strome does not fit nor do the isles want him. You also are overvaluing him, unless he has a good year he is worth a 2nd. And I believe Lee, Bailey and Palmeri will all produce equal or better then him for the next 4 years.

The only way the isles trade for de Haan is if it is Hickey and a 4th for de Haan. At this point you cannot count on de Haan to play more then 60 games. The benefit to the hawks is after you bury Hickey you saved about 3m in cap.

Here’s why I value Strome at a 1st rounder:

- The first rounder will be a late one
- Strome would still be RFA by the end of this season, meaning unless he has his best year yet coming up, he won’t leave in free agency and will likely get another similarly cheap contract at the end of this year
- Strome has the potential to be a good 2nd line center-wing, he’s shown he can score at a high pace before. I see Strome as very low risk high reward while he’s still RFA; either we lose a late 1st rounder for a low cap hit point per two games kind of guy (worth it) or Strome lives up to his potential and we strike gold (even more worth it)

Young RFA center wings are a rare commodity, and its even rarer when a team wants to sell low on one.

But hey, if the Isles can nab Strome for a 2nd I’d be very happy with that!