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Philadelphia Flyers signed Joel Farabee (6 Years / $5,000,000 AAV)

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2 sep à 12 h 05
#1
Joel Farabee has signed a new contract with the Philadelphia Flyers.
CONTRAT STANDARD (PROLONGATION)
Contrats comparablesCOMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 6 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Flyers de PhiladelphieFlyers de Philadelphie
VALEUR: 30 000 000 $
% DU C.H. : 6,14
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 2 septembre 2021
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERFORMANCE BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2022-235 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $2 000 000 $1 000 000 $3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
2023-245 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $2 000 000 $2 250 000 $4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
2024-255 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $2 000 000 $3 000 000 $5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
2025-265 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $1 500 000 $4 250 000 $5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
2026-275 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $0 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
2027-285 000 000 $5 000 000 $0 $0 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
TOTAL30 000 000 $30 000 000 $0 $7 500 000 $22 500 000 $30 000 000 $30 000 000 $
2 sep à 12 h 07
#2
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Farabee is already one of the best forwards on the flyers. Great deal for him and the team.
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2 sep à 12 h 08
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The Andrew Mcdonald contract.. Hopefully this one works out better for Philly.
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2 sep à 12 h 10
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Between TK and this the Flyers are set on team friendly deals.
2 sep à 12 h 11
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Great deal, sure brings him to UFA but the value they'll get on this deal is great
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2 sep à 12 h 16
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With the Casey signing and now Joel, along with Beau , it's really making it clear how bad that KK offer sheet is.

Glad the KK contract didn't create inflation on 35-40 point players across the League.
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2 sep à 12 h 19
#7
Sit back and relax..
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Love Farabee so the Flyers got a great deal here but it’ll be exciting to see him hit the UFA market in 6 years smile

But the Flyers could look real scary if Hart can get back into form
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2 sep à 12 h 37
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Who the heck thinks this is a bad deal?
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2 sep à 12 h 38
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Bit of a gamble based on one season. Would have waited till the end of this season before giving him that kind of money and term. But if he can continue to perform like he did the previous season then its a good deal.
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2 sep à 12 h 39
#10
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Huge contract for a guy whith only 100 games played.

But hey, at least no a-hole GM will give him a stupid OS down the road ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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2 sep à 12 h 43
#11
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I think this contract is gonna look real good for Philly in a couple years!
2 sep à 12 h 56
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The AAV is a steal
2 sep à 12 h 57
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Bit of a gamble right now but if he has another solid year that AAV would have been either a lot higher or just a 2-3 year bridge deal.
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2 sep à 13 h 03
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I didn't vote "No" but I think this is a lot of money for a guy who has basically the same figures as Max Comtois, who is getting less than half that, albeit for only half the term.
2 sep à 13 h 06
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Quoting: aadoyle
Bit of a gamble based on one season. Would have waited till the end of this season before giving him that kind of money and term. But if he can continue to perform like he did the previous season then its a good deal.


If he continues to perform like this he gets 7 million.
2 sep à 13 h 34
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I didn't vote "No" but I think this is a lot of money for a guy who has basically the same figures as Max Comtois, who is getting less than half that, albeit for only half the term.


But as I said on Comtois post if I were able to double his salary and sign him to term I'd do it. I think it's worth the gamble.
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2 sep à 13 h 44
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Quoting: BCAPP
Who the heck thinks this is a bad deal?


He's only played just over 100 games and scored less than 60 points. It's a risk, because he doesn't have a proven track record.
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2 sep à 14 h 02
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Quoting: BCAPP
Who the heck thinks this is a bad deal?

Me it’s a lot of money and term that could look bad in a couple years
2 sep à 14 h 41
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Quoting: yikes
Love Farabee so the Flyers got a great deal here but it’ll be exciting to see him hit the UFA market in 6 years smile

But the Flyers could look real scary if Hart can get back into form


nice KSG avi
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2 sep à 14 h 49
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Farabee has done very well so far. There's some risk to committing this much money right now, but if he doesn't falter, this contract could also become one of the league's best.
2 sep à 15 h 30
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
He's only played just over 100 games and scored less than 60 points. It's a risk, because he doesn't have a proven track record.


I'd say the risk is way higher that if he continues to play like he does than he costs way more
2 sep à 15 h 32
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
Me it’s a lot of money and term that could look bad in a couple years


If he sucks and they buy him out in 3 years his cap hit on buyout is 833k.

The best way to get the best value contracts (essentially all the best value contracts in the NHL) is to sign a good young player for a little more than you think they're worth for term.

All of Barkov, MacKinnon, Josi (last deal), Parise (2 deals ago), etc were signed like this.

The risk is much lower than potential reward
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2 sep à 16 h 38
#23
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I think this deal will end up looking better than the Konecny deal
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2 sep à 16 h 54
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How is a player that has 1 20 goal season worth $5 million AAV for 6 years?
2 sep à 18 h 36
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Quoting: Janasazi
How is a player that has 1 20 goal season worth $5 million AAV for 6 years?


Because in a cap world, contracts are more about trying to guess what a guy will be doing on the contract then what they've done before it.

And a 21 year old first round pick who was 30th in goals in the league is a good gamble to be very good. The downside risk is low as they can buy him out cheap if needed given under 25 buyouts. The upside is if he continues playing like a 30 goal 55 pt player or even improves given he's only 21 than they have a bargain as that would cost 7+
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