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KK trade

Créé par: Daffe
Équipe: 2021-22 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 1 sept. 2021
Publié: 2 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Carolina don´t need KK. Flipp directly to uppgrade from a third to a second pick.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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2 857 143 $2 857 143 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 20
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Why would you trade you're 1st? This team isn't making the playoffs and you're probably gonna have a top 10 pick
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2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 29
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We don’t need Kotkaniemi this season but next season we might. Winning an offer sheet is rare enough but then flip the player?

We probably wouldn’t sell him off even in the slightest of chance that we would flip him. Maybe as the base piece for an extended Forsberg, maybe. Still a small chance though.
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2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 31
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I don't believe Carolina can flip KK until January (I may be wrong on this though)
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2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 35
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Quoting: Campabee
I don't believe Carolina can flip KK until January (I may be wrong on this though)

If matched the original team has a restriction of 1 year. A winning OS team doesn’t have restrictions for a trade. To extend the player, it is January 1st.
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2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 44
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Quoting: ecupirate07
If matched the original team has a restriction of 1 year. A winning OS team doesn’t have restrictions for a trade. To extend the player, it is January 1st.


Yeah, I knew the original team couldn't trade him and he couldn't be extended until Jan 1st but I also thought I heard somewhere that the new team couldn't trade him either. Guess not lol
2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 47
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Quoting: ecupirate07
If matched the original team has a restriction of 1 year. A winning OS team doesn’t have restrictions for a trade. To extend the player, it is January 1st.


What what? That would be incredibly stupid. Where in the CBA is this again?
2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What what? That would be incredibly stupid. Where in the CBA is this again?


It is actually true, I just scoured the CBA and the original team can not trade a player they matched for 1 year but it does not limit the new team from trading the player immediately. That said I imagine that the NHL and NHLPA would have something to say about this because it would be really bad for business.
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2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What what? That would be incredibly stupid. Where in the CBA is this again?


No it’s quite true. If MTL matches, KK gets paid 6.1 mil this year and essentially has that 1 year of NMC restriction. Carolina can start negotiating an extension with KK for a lower cap hit on January 1st, 2022, but they will probably already have one worked out by then. MTL doesn’t have that luxury if they match. If MTL decides to match, they have to decide whether or not to give KK that QO, and if they choose not to, KK becomes a UFA, and Carolina comes calling once again.

I think a KK extension would look something like the Kadri extension when he was still with the Leafs. Kadri comes off a bad season and gets 6x4.5mil. Something like a 6x4mil or an 8x5mil I find really likely to be the optimal deals for an extension.
2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: Campabee
It is actually true, I just scoured the CBA and the original team can not trade a player they matched for 1 year but it does not limit the new team from trading the player immediately. That said I imagine that the NHL and NHLPA would have something to say about this because it would be really bad for business.


Yea. The likelihood that the Canes would flip him is infinitesimal. GMs are good are doing what they can inside the scope of the CBA. Then it is changed later when a GM abuses the spirit of the CBA but not the letter. Even then I don’t see it.

I think when the CBA rules were made, they acted under the safe assumption an offer sheet team wants the player. Not make an offer sheet to gain a tradeable asset. Probably didn’t cross their minds.
2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 6
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Quoting: Campabee
It is actually true, I just scoured the CBA and the original team can not trade a player they matched for 1 year but it does not limit the new team from trading the player immediately. That said I imagine that the NHL and NHLPA would have something to say about this because it would be really bad for business.

Gee I wonder why I would be bad for business. Assuming MTL doesn’t match, Canes aren’t going to just up and trade KK. Before the offer sheet was sent and accepted, Canes were trying to trade for KK. Canes won’t open up a hole immediately after it was filled. Frankly, no team would do that.
2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 12
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Gee I wonder why I would be bad for business. Assuming MTL doesn’t match, Canes aren’t going to just up and trade KK. Before the offer sheet was sent and accepted, Canes were trying to trade for KK. Canes won’t open up a hole immediately after it was filled. Frankly, no team would do that.


Yes I know that, I was just answering a question. I never said they would do it or that they should. I was just saying it was not against the CBA but the NHL and NHLPA would not be happy about it.
2 sept. 2021 à 9 h 20
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Quoting: Campabee
Yes I know that, I was just answering a question. I never said they would do it or that they should. I was just saying it was not against the CBA but the NHL and NHLPA would not be happy about it.


Yeah I get that. I was being pretty sarcastic with the first part of that post.
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2 sept. 2021 à 11 h 28
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That pick could be top 10. Easy no from Preds!!
 
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