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could work out as a cheaper option

Créé par: GenW
Date de création initiale: 2 sept. 2021
Publié: 2 sept. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
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Feel free to correct line combos, I didn't watch any Candiens hockey this year.
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  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
ANA
MTL
TBL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $75 919 227 $597 561 $1 475 000 $5 580 773 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
6 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MTL
Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
MTL
Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5

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2 sept. à 5 h 32
#1
mokumboi
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A 2nd doesn't even cover the 7M+ in retention you're asking for.
2 sept. à 5 h 44
#2
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Quoting: mokumboi
A 2nd doesn't even cover the 7M+ in retention you're asking for.


Would car 1st be enough?
2 sept. à 5 h 46
#3
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Not a bad option, but that retention over 3 years isn;t going to work out....

Why doesn;t MTL truly go for it and do something like:

Henrique C (with some retention, or a 3rd party taking some retention)
Josh Manson RD

for

Paul Byron
Lehkonen (Poehling and Perreault can platoon at 4LW)
MTL 1st
MTL 3rd
CAR 3rd
MTL 4th (MTL still would have 8 picks in 2022, one in each round)

Overall I think it makes the defense so much deeper and makes a respectable Center position of Suzuki-Henrique-Pacquette-Evans-Poehling

DEFENSE:

Edmundson-Petry
Chariot-Manson
Romanov-Savard
Kulak
2 sept. à 6 h 5
#4
mokumboi
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
Would car 1st be enough?



Perhaps, but certainly no less than that.
2 sept. à 7 h 3
#5
Lenny7
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Not a bad option, but that retention over 3 years isn;t going to work out....

Why doesn;t MTL truly go for it and do something like:

Henrique C (with some retention, or a 3rd party taking some retention)
Josh Manson RD

for

Paul Byron
Lehkonen (Poehling and Perreault can platoon at 4LW)
MTL 1st
MTL 3rd
CAR 3rd
MTL 4th (MTL still would have 8 picks in 2022, one in each round)

Overall I think it makes the defense so much deeper and makes a respectable Center position of Suzuki-Henrique-Pacquette-Evans-Poehling

DEFENSE:

Edmundson-Petry
Chariot-Manson
Romanov-Savard
Kulak


Don't really feel like there's any desperation from the Ducks end to move Rico w/retention. I think there's a point where the Ducks just have to sit back and say "Alright, where are we at?".

You move Rico, and all of the sudden you're throwing guys like Zegras, Steel, Lundestrom, etc. to the wolves offensively.
You move Manson, and all of the sudden you're throwing Drysdale to the wolves defensively.

I'm all about re-couping assets, but I really feel like the time to capitalize on a player like Manson's value has come and gone, unfortunately. At this point, he's more benefitial to the Ducks IMO, to eat minutes defensively.

I mean, I guess I don't absolutely loathe the trade, because I'd like to add another 1st, but I have some issues with it. The issue I have is that selling Manson for less than a 1st doesn't make sense (Not saying that his value is huge, I just think if he's healthy, by the deadline someone is going to be willing to pay), and retaining on Rico to get a cap dump in Byron, Lehk (who doesn't really do much except dump one of the young guys out of the lineup), and a bunch of 3rds/4ths doesn't do it for me. Not saying the actual value that Anaheim is sending here is a ton more than they're getting back, but I just feel like there's more value in having the guys to shield the younger guys than there is in taking back dumps.
Hammerwise a aimé ceci.
2 sept. à 7 h 36
#6
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Quoting: mokumboi
A 2nd doesn't even cover the 7M+ in retention you're asking for.


I see your point, it probably needs more there going to the ducks, but as stated I don't know their values. That said what would you propose, cuz I think Henrique would be a pretty great 2C for them.
2 sept. à 10 h 42
#7
mokumboi
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Quoting: GenW
I see your point, it probably needs more there going to the ducks, but as stated I don't know their values. That said what would you propose, cuz I think Henrique would be a pretty great 2C for them.



Without retention, you might not even need to pay as much as a 2nd to get Henrique straight up. They might be happy just to get rid of his salary. When you add in retention AND a veteran cap dump to a team not ready to contend, it blows the deal.
2 sept. à 11 h 13
#8
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Quoting: mokumboi
Without retention, you might not even need to pay as much as a 2nd to get Henrique straight up. They might be happy just to get rid of his salary. When you add in retention AND a veteran cap dump to a team not ready to contend, it blows the deal.


Yeah I was focused on just evening out the money, didnt realize it would be that easy to get henrique
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