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this is actually mind blowing this is what the habs could have had

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 1 sept. 2021
Publié: 1 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Ignore the cap hit and the player salaries, players would have obviously been paid differently than what they got on their actual team to accommodate the salary cap.
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    Offer sheet declined in 2019
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      offer sheet accepted and signed but matched in 2019
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        We traded the pick used to select DeBrincat for Andrew Shaw...
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        1. Tkachuk, Brady [Droits de RFA]
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          Drafted instead of kk
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            The Flyers offered the Habs a 2015 1st round pick, Morin, and Giroux for Subban and the Habs said no.
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              Doesn't matter where they would go but they probably would not be on our team right now
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                That draft pick we would have got from the Flyers trade was used to select Provorov
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                  more players we would not have today
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                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 8
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                  not a fan of anderson or his contract, but i'd take him over Domi
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                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 10
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                  Quoting: JaredOfLondon
                  not a fan of anderson or his contract, but i'd take him over Domi


                  If they had those wings, I doubt they would have traded Domi for Anderson in the first place. I'd take Anderson over Domi too but it wouldn't have worked if all of this had already happened. There just would be no room for another wing like him lol
                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 11
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                  Quoting: knuxles
                  If they had those wings, I doubt they would have traded Domi for Anderson in the first place. I'd take Anderson over Domi too but it wouldn't have worked if all of this had already happened. There just would be no room for another wing like him lol


                  sure, but domi's a winger too, the experiments at C notwithstanding
                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 13
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                  Your deal is bad
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                  If you're working all these miracles you might as well fix all Weber's health issues too
                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 17
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                  Quoting: OnlyBadDeals
                  If you're working all these miracles you might as well fix all Weber's health issues too


                  What's funny is most of these deals like the Blackhawks trade and the Flyers trades were offered to the Habs... its the Habs that said no lol
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                  1 sept. 2021 à 19 h 33
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                  You can't have Aho and Point in this hypothetical.
                  Aho was a result of Point rejecting. If he accepts, the Aho offer never happens.
                  1 sept. 2021 à 20 h 44
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                  Was the Philly trade just an NHLinsiderzz rumor or a legit rumor because I call BS on that one big time. lol
                  1 sept. 2021 à 20 h 58
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                  Fun Story time... but one that's heartbreaking for us Wild fans. So good for some laughs.

                  In 2014 the Wild traded down ONE SPOT with Tampa Bay during the 3rd round, Tampa then used that pick swap to take Point after moving up.

                  But wait... it gets even better. After moving down a spot and passing on Point for a 3rd time and him promptly getting taken by TB, Minnesota selected RHD Louis Belpedio with the very next pick.

                  Now, not only did the Wild just pass on a future HOF'er elite 1C, that they've desperately wanted and needed their entire existence but have never had, but Belpedio hasn't really mounted to much either. Granted, it's not entirely his fault, as he's been blocked pretty heavily by and hampered by the Wild's strong depth at D for the last 6 years. Belpedio does have solid potential still as a 4-6 type puck moving defenseman.

                  But here's the kicker.

                  Belpedio left our organization this off-season and signed for greener pastures elsewhere.

                  Where did he sign? You guessed it....

                  Montreal.

                  It's the circle of life I tell ya... 🤣
                  2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 27
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                  The two offer sheets never had a real chance of getting the players.
                  2 sept. 2021 à 8 h 30
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                  Quoting: RazWild
                  Fun Story time... but one that's heartbreaking for us Wild fans. So good for some laughs.

                  In 2014 the Wild traded down ONE SPOT with Tampa Bay during the 3rd round, Tampa then used that pick swap to take Point after moving up.

                  But wait... it gets even better. After moving down a spot and passing on Point for a 3rd time and him promptly getting taken by TB, Minnesota selected RHD Louis Belpedio with the very next pick.

                  Now, not only did the Wild just pass on a future HOF'er elite 1C, that they've desperately wanted and needed their entire existence but have never had, but Belpedio hasn't really mounted to much either. Granted, it's not entirely his fault, as he's been blocked pretty heavily by and hampered by the Wild's strong depth at D for the last 6 years. Belpedio does have solid potential still as a 4-6 type puck moving defenseman.

                  But here's the kicker.

                  Belpedio left our organization this off-season and signed for greener pastures elsewhere.

                  Where did he sign? You guessed it....

                  Montreal.

                  It's the circle of life I tell ya... 🤣

                  Dude he was a third round pick. He probably wasn’t even on the wilds radar. You’re acting like they traded down from the first overall.

                  Let’s pump the brakes on calling a guy with 350 games a future hall of famer.
                  2 sept. 2021 à 11 h 19
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                  Modifié 2 sept. 2021 à 11 h 25
                  Quoting: CMcAvoy73
                  Dude he was a third round pick. He probably wasn’t even on the wilds radar. You’re acting like they traded down from the first overall.

                  Let’s pump the brakes on calling a guy with 350 games a future hall of famer.


                  I'm sorry, did you really just say that Brayden Point isn't already a future hall of famer? And that we should hold off on calling him one just because he was drafted in the 3rd round and has played less than 400 games in the NHL to date?

                  Dude... the guy is already a top ten center in the league and has a couple Stanley Cups on his resume by only his age 25 season. That's better than a few select and universally accepted players who're already considered to be future HOF'ers. I'm talking about McDavid, Mackinnon and Matthews. All of whom have exactly zero cups, combined. If people are ready to annoint those 3 as future hall of famers, than Point deserves to be held in that regard as well. They might be better players, but he's had the better career so far. I think you're underscoring how much of an impact he's already had on the league.

                  So he's played only 351 games to date in his career, but he's also scored 310 points in those 351 games. He's even better in the post season with 73 points in 67 career playoff games. He's also proven and shown himself to be consistent with his high level of production, to date as well. So unless he suddenly falls off a cliff in terms of scoring point production, there's nothing to suggest his numbers aren't sustainable which would put him easily on pace for HOF level type numbers.

                  So no, I don't think it's a stretch at all to say he's a future HOF'er, even at this stage in his career.

                  As for treating that pick like it's a 1st overall. I’m not. I'm well aware that Point was taken in the 3rd, and that he was passed over by 30 teams not once but twice. I get that, but that has more to do with most Franchises continued stubbornness and absolute refusal to draft High-Skill/High-Upside players just because they're short, irregardless of whether they're 1st round talents, let alone a top ten pick type talent. So these type of prospects always drop, hard, in every draft class.

                  But that wasn't the point of my original comment in the first place.

                  My comment, since it didn't seem to register for you, was more to do with the fact that after trading down a spot and losing out on what turned out to be an elite 1C, in hindsight, which the original poster was using in an what if scenario that he could of been a Habs player if he'd accepted the offersheet and it wasn't matched. But the guy taken one spot after Point, Louis Belpedio, did in fact eventually become a Habs player. Point is merely being used as the segway and set up, while Belpedio is the punchline.

                  I'm sorry, but I find that hilarious.
                  2 sept. 2021 à 11 h 34
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                  Quoting: RazWild
                  I'm sorry, did you really just say that Brayden Point isn't already a future hall of famer? And that we should hold off on calling him one just because he was drafted in the 3rd round and has played less than 400 games in the NHL to date?

                  Dude... the guy is already a top ten center in the league and has a couple Stanley Cups on his resume by only his age 25 season. That's better than a few select and universally accepted players who're already considered to be future HOF'ers. I'm talking about McDavid, Mackinnon and Matthews. All of whom have exactly zero cups, combined. If people are ready to annoint those 3 as future hall of famers, than Point deserves to be held in that regard as well. They might be better players, but he's had the better career so far. I think you're underscoring how much of an impact he's already had on the league.

                  So he's played only 351 games to date in his career, but he's also scored 310 points in those 351 games. He's even better in the post season with 73 points in 67 career playoff games. He's also proven and shown himself to be consistent with his high level of production, to date as well. So unless he suddenly falls off a cliff in terms of scoring point production, there's nothing to suggest his numbers aren't sustainable which would put him easily on pace for HOF level type numbers.

                  So no, I don't think it's a stretch at all to say he's a future HOF'er, even at this stage in his career.

                  As for treating that pick like it's a 1st overall. I’m not. I'm well aware that Point was taken in the 3rd, and that he was passed over by 30 teams not once but twice. I get that, but that has more to do with most Franchises continued stubbornness and absolute refusal to draft High-Skill/High-Upside players just because they're short, irregardless of whether they're 1st round talents, let alone a top ten pick type talent. So these type of prospects always drop, hard, in every draft class.

                  But that wasn't the point of my original comment in the first place.

                  My comment, since it didn't seem to register for you, was more to do with the fact that after trading down a spot and losing out on what turned out to be an elite 1C, in hindsight, which the original poster was using in an what if scenario that he could of been a Habs player if he'd accepted the offersheet and it wasn't matched. But the guy taken one spot after Point, Louis Belpedio, did in fact eventually become a Habs player. Point is merely being used as the segway and set up, while Belpedio is the punchline.

                  I'm sorry, but I find that hilarious.


                  I think you’re fuzzy on a few things. One is how strict the hall of fame is, and how hard it is to get in. Another is the term, “future hall of famer.” Most use that in reference to a player who, if they retired that minute, would be in the hall of fame.

                  Do you know how commonplace it is for guys to have a few really good years and then kind of fade off? Turgeon has 1300+ points and isn’t in the hall. It’s a lifetime achievement award. Maybe a guy like McDavid could get in with just a few years, because he was the best player in the league. Point has never been the best player in the league. Highest he’s finished in hart voting is 21st. He’s never been the best player at his position. He’s never been the best player on his team. Calling him a future hall of famer at this point is beyond absurd. He needs to play like this for another decade.
                   
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