Go ahead, but Buffalo will laugh unless you include one of Romanov, Suzuki or Caufield.

Got em? Oh wait no you didn't because Buffalo hangs up instantly

No prospect, no eichel

There is almost already the wanted four 1st rounders in picks alone... How is that such a bad trade? I mean, yeah, the retention is bit rich, but besides that, the asking price is there

Lol what? Did you just pretend 40% retention has zero effect on the value? I bet Buffalo is just dying to pay out 19.5M dollars to someone on a division rival

I did not pretend it has zero value... Did I say that? Did you misinterpret something?

There is way more than four 1st round picks included in the offer, hence some retention would be OK. That amount is rich, but it still doesn't make the proposal laughable...

You must have some serious self-esteem problems. All I ever see you do is bash trade offers

4m in retention over 5 years is worth multiple first rounders on its own. Sabres also want top prospects, not all picks. Need to include one of the guys you don’t want to to get Eichel without retention even or else it’s not happening.

I know they want prospects, but value-wise the 1st rounders do the job. Plus I'm a Panthers fan, I know how much cap space costs (ahem, Bobrovsky). 4M a year is a lot, but with what there is on the table now, they could probably ask for ~1,5M in retention.

Yeah if they swap out one of the firsts with caufield then I’d agree with the smaller retention being fair. Don’t see BUF accepting at this point if not. Especially knowing mtl is desperate potentially

take out lehky and kulak and add ylonen and norlinder for a start. remove the retention too.

Yeah, I'm not saying Buffalo should accept either. I was just dumbfounded as to why these kids acted like someone just offered Tavares for McDavid one for one

Literally any player 1 for 1 for McDavid would be ludicrous so I'm curious how you chose Tavares to throw under the bus

Yep agree it’s not a bad deal just probably not what they’re looking for

-> Leafs (because their fans are notorious for being dumb lol)
- > not Matthews, someone might actually think that's fair
- > Their second best center

Fair enough

The offer is laughable, you are suggesting that Lehkonen, Kulak, a 2nd and a 3rd are worth 4M retention for 5 years. Thats 2 replacement level players and 2 likely irrelevant picks..

How do I have self-esteem issues from pointing out why your trade is crap?

1) It's not my trade lmao
2) Eichel's price with no retention is not four 1st rounders. If it were, they would've already traded him
3) this package offered is not worth 4M in retention. It is worth some retention, however. The value is not ridiculously off
4) You have over 18 THOUSAND posts in CapFriendly, something must be off... How many of those are positive in any way? At least ten?

1. I apologize for calling it your crap offer when it was someone elses crap offer that you chose to foolishly defend
2. "4 1sts" is really vague, he is still very likely worth that and probably returns value close to that.
3. Is it worth some retention? I mean like Buffalo's not going to retain so thats moot.
4. So my post count on a public forum coralates to my mental stability? Ok then? No idea why you decided to start being toxic to begin with but sure man, whatever

Dang my man, you are getting torn apart lol. I mean really this trade does include the asking price of "4 first round assets", it' is the retention that is the problem i feel why people are saying it is bad, which I do agree with the retention is ridiculous, but really its not bad if you take out the retention.

Torn apart... what?

And yeah, I figured it is the retention, which is too much. That package does not warrant that much retention. Without any retention, this is a blatant overpay, however. I do know this is not an offer the Sabres would accept, never have I ever said it. The first three comments are just hilarious overreactions, though

I meant torn apart cause like people think you made this post lol. Idk why that one dude was so pressed at you. I agree with ya.

Oh yeah. Well, I haven't seen him be positive towards anyone here. I'm not sure he physically can be not-pressed.

Yeah bro, as a neutral fan here that is a classic quantity for quality deal and no team is going to retain salary for 5 years, nevermind that you're asking them to do it to get Eichel to be a $6.1M player and probably the best value contract in the league.

Guhle and the 3 - 1sts probably satisfies the asking price but Kulak, Lehk, 2nd & 3rd doesn't get you $3.9 retained for 5 years... so the initial premise of the trade falls apart because you won't be able to get a better player for $6.1M, nevermind a better C.

Habs are in a real tough spot here from where I sit. Let a team swoop in and take your lunch money or sign a really rich contract that with the qualifying offers will walk the player right to UFA. Plus if they match that puts Suzuki and then Caulfield at risk of being offersheeted too.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Even though there are too many pieces that don't spike Buffalo's interest, value-wise it's fair (if you don't take into account that retention, obviously). Just looking at value, this trade is OK, it just has a few million too much retention

I don't really agree about the value being right, but what does it matter if the pieces don't spike Buffalo's interest? It's still declined