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Big trade and much better team

Créé par: Joey
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 29 août 2021
Publié: 29 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Even without Marner I think this team is a lot better and has lots of cap space for the deadline and next year to resign players.
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Harley, Thomas
  2. Hintz, Roope
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
2.
SEA
  1. Harley, Thomas
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Kessel, Phil (3 000 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
CHI
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
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2 940 000 $2 940 000 $
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UFA - 1
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C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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NTC
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 0
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GO FLAMES GO
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Dallas declines
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 5
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Stars mega pass.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 12
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So is it your belief that Hintz + Kessel + McCann > Marner + Kerfoot?

What kind of world are you living in?
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 13
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On behalf of the jackets we accept a 3rd for kerfoot. Or a domi at 50% and a fifth for kerfoot.
29 août 2021 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: Janasazi
So is it your belief that Hintz + Kessel + McCann > Marner + Kerfoot?

What kind of world are you living in?


To be fair hintz is super underrated on this site. However yeah the math doesn’t add up.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 14
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this is a lot of things, but it certainly isnt a 'much better team'
29 août 2021 à 19 h 18
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Quoting: The_Cannon
To be fair hintz is super underrated on this site. However yeah the math doesn’t add up.


Sometimes I just get tired of people making Marner trades for people that don't have the same kind of production.
Is Marner overpayed? HELL YES!
Is Marner a point a game producer in a season? YES!
So if you're going to move Marner, you at least have to maintain the production he was giving!
29 août 2021 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: Janasazi
Sometimes I just get tired of people making Marner trades for people that don't have the same kind of production.
Is Marner overpayed? HELL YES!
Is Marner a point a game producer in a season? YES!
So if you're going to move Marner, you at least have to maintain the production he was giving!


Well if your moving an “overpaid” gambreaker for someone to output the same production your going to pay more.
I agree that marner has been mashed on this site to a stupid Margin however to expect a player of equal caliber with a lesser caphit coming back, isn’t realistic either.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 24
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Quoting: The_Cannon
To be fair hintz is super underrated on this site. However yeah the math doesn’t add up.


Yes he is underrated. He was producing at a little over one point per game last year in a suffocating defensive system.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 30
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What in tarnation
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Easy no from Dallas. Marner is not worth this much.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: The_Cannon
Well if your moving an “overpaid” gambreaker for someone to output the same production your going to pay more.
I agree that marner has been mashed on this site to a stupid Margin however to expect a player of equal caliber with a lesser caphit coming back, isn’t realistic either.


I agree with that completely. In my opinion, the Leafs can't win a Marner trade. The contract exists and you'll just have to live with it, hoping that maybe the next deal is better.
In my opinion, the only Leafs that you can move out for decent value is Reilly and Kerfoot. Aside from that, you're going to have to go with what you have.
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29 août 2021 à 19 h 49
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Seattle's biggest weakness is at center, so why are they moving McCann?
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29 août 2021 à 20 h 14
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Stars probably wouldn't even do that trade 1 for 1 let alone adding a 1st and Harley. Hintz is a centre and is cost controlled, Marner is making $11m and is a winger.
29 août 2021 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: Janasazi
I agree with that completely. In my opinion, the Leafs can't win a Marner trade. The contract exists and you'll just have to live with it, hoping that maybe the next deal is better.
In my opinion, the only Leafs that you can move out for decent value is Reilly and Kerfoot. Aside from that, you're going to have to go with what you have.


Marner needs to carry his own line at this point. If he can get a secondary scoring winger from 18-22 goals up to 30 goals that would be the most ideal outcome. Mathews can score on his own and shouldn’t need another superstar to pair with him
Toronto should target cheap Young guys who have good shots but not great setup partners. . (Bemstrom could be a target if he falls out of favor with columbus as a cheap experiment.) but with a gaping hole on the 3rd rw spot I see him filling it quite well.
Mathews and nylander should be the pair and John and Mitch should be the other pair. Get a good shooter on that marner Tavares line and there set. I think foligno could have done great work as the 3rdman on the Austin Willy line but it didn’t work due to injury.
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29 août 2021 à 20 h 57
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Quoting: Janasazi
Sometimes I just get tired of people making Marner trades for people that don't have the same kind of production.
Is Marner overpayed? HELL YES!
Is Marner a point a game producer in a season? YES!
So if you're going to move Marner, you at least have to maintain the production he was giving!


He isn't really overpaid. He's a top 5 winger in the league. He's money well spent. Anyone who thinks teams would say no to getting him because he gets paid a lot are just lost. Although there are GM's who would say a young superstar should make much less and then go and give the Ladd's and Hyman's of the world huge long term contracts that immediately look bad.
29 août 2021 à 21 h 20
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Yes he is underrated. He was producing at a little over one point per game last year in a suffocating defensive system.


he's also older than Marner (6 months,older but older still, it's not like he's 21) and has one season at just over a ppg with his other two being closer to 0.5 ppg. Marner on the other hand has one season under ppg and his worse season (his rookie year on a terrible team with tyler bozak as his C) he rocked an 0.79 ppg,
Hintz is under rated, but Marner has become probably the most under rated player on these boards
30 août 2021 à 1 h 0
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Marner rocks
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Quoting: Janasazi
So is it your belief that Hintz + Kessel + McCann > Marner + Kerfoot?

What kind of world are you living in?


This people must not watch Marner play, it's all in good fun though. The leafs will never trade Marner, Nylander will be the one to be moved.
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30 août 2021 à 9 h 27
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Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: Janasazi
So is it your belief that Hintz + Kessel + McCann > Marner + Kerfoot?

What kind of world are you living in?


Hintz 41 games and 43 points, McCann 43 games 32 points, Phil 56 games 43 points =118 points
Marner 55 games 67 points, Kerfoot 56 games 23 points. =90
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30 août 2021 à 18 h 13
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Marner rocks
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He isn't really overpaid. He's a top 5 winger in the league. He's money well spent. Anyone who thinks teams would say no to getting him because he gets paid a lot are just lost. Although there are GM's who would say a young superstar should make much less and then go and give the Ladd's and Hyman's of the world huge long term contracts that immediately look bad.


He's the 2nd best 2way winger (Marchand). 4th league scoring. If he played the last game of the year he would have lead the league in ice time for forwards 2 years in a row. I think he finished 6th in takeaways in the league. He's the only leaf on the #1 unit in every situation. 17 points in his last 19 playoff games - Matthews 17 points - Hyman 5 points. If he stays healthy, he will be in the top 5 in scoring every year till his contract is up.
30 août 2021 à 20 h 5
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Repeat after me…. “A trade has to work for BOTH sides”
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