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The Carolina Hurricanes read my post about offersheeting Jesperi Kotkaniemi

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Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2021
Publié: 28 août 2021
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    I made a post on August 20th about offer-sheeting Kotkaniemi.


    Same Caphit.


    Same AAV



    Only difference is that it's for 1 year instead of two.


    Coming from Carolina, this is obviously done out of spite for when Marc Bergevin offersheeted Sebastian Aho.
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        20 dollar signing bonus
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          AKA Aho's Jersey Number

          Good luck coming up with the cap space.

          And good luck for next season, because that's going to be his qualifying offer next year :D
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 37
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          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 42
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          Good call!! Seems some GMs look at capfriendly for inspiration
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 42
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*


          Imagine Weber we’re never injured
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 44
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          Quoting: Canesfan21_
          Imagine Weber we’re never injured


          I laugh even harder
          28 août 2021 à 18 h 44
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*


          Oh no what will Montreal do??

          Gotta find cap space in 12 months for

          1. Romanov

          2. Chiarot

          3. Suzuki

          4. Lekhonen

          5. And yes, KK
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 46
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          The best part is.....

          The is a $20 (twenty bucks) signing bonus for the #20 Aho wears.

          Waddell is genius!
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 47
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*


          Why? Carolina just ****ed themselves. Take that 1st and third and pack it with poehling for a decent centre.

          There is no reason for Montreal to match. Giving up a 1st and 3rd for a horrible contract would be stupid.
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 48
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          Quoting: GenXHockey
          Why? Carolina just ****ed themselves. Take that 1st and third and pack it with poehling for a decent centre.

          There is no reason for Montreal to match. Giving up a 1st and 3rd for a horrible contract would be stupid.


          Where are you gonna find a decent centre at this point? An aging and over paid Adam Hendrique?

          Waddell won the war here. Doesn't matter what Bergevin does. It's checkmate with a $20 tip lol
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 51
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          Quoting: sensonfire
          Oh no what will Montreal do??

          Gotta find cap space in 12 months for

          1. Romanov

          2. Chiarot

          3. Suzuki

          4. Lekhonen

          5. And yes, KK


          Oh no, sign KK move drouin and byron which frees up nearly 9 mil in cap space alone plus chiarots contract expires after this season he can go elsewhere and let norlinder come in. so thats 12 mil in cap space to sign suzuki and romanov. then find a way to move armia or edmundson for extra space
          28 août 2021 à 18 h 51
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          Quoting: swinny
          Where are you gonna find a decent centre at this point? An aging and over paid Adam Hendrique?

          Waddell won the war here. Doesn't matter what Bergevin does.


          I would start with Hertl, but there are dozens of candidates out there.

          If Montreal doesn’t match Waddell loses. No 1st for TDL and no space. A horrible contract that won’t get a QO. I mean KK just isn’t all that good of a player.
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 52
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*


          when Byron returns in Dec/Jan with Weber on LTIR, MTL would be over the cap, they would need to trade someone before Byron returns.
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 52
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          Oh no, sign KK move drouin and byron which frees up nearly 9 mil in cap space alone plus chiarots contract expires after this season he can go elsewhere and let norlinder come in. so thats 12 mil in cap space to sign suzuki and romanov. then find a way to move armia or edmundson for extra space


          Or they let KK go and **** the canes… I mean that is a horrible contract. Why trade a 1st and 3rd for a top 10 bad contract in the league?
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 54
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          Quoting: GenXHockey
          Or they let KK go and **** the canes… I mean that is a horrible contract. Why trade a 1st and 3rd for a top 10 bad contract in the league?


          you could do that too, im just saying what they can do in order to keep him aswell as some of the younger guys
          28 août 2021 à 18 h 54
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          Quoting: GenXHockey
          I would start with Hertl, but there are dozens of candidates out there.

          If Montreal doesn’t match Waddell loses. No 1st for TDL and no space. A horrible contract that won’t get a QO. I mean KK just isn’t all that good of a player.


          You won't get Hertl without giving up a significant prospect..... and that one year left on the deal is playing with fire. No guarentee Hertl reups
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 55
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          Oh no, sign KK move drouin and byron which frees up nearly 9 mil in cap space alone plus chiarots contract expires after this season he can go elsewhere and let norlinder come in. so thats 12 mil in cap space to sign suzuki and romanov. then find a way to move armia or edmundson for extra space


          Done.

          Just like that

          Without making any sacrifices.



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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 56
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          you could do that too, im just saying what they can do in order to keep him aswell as some of the younger guys


          With Brisson now representing Eichel, I suspect that sets up where he won't be at camp.

          A match and trade may work well for both sides here.
          28 août 2021 à 18 h 56
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          Quoting: sensonfire
          Done.

          Just like that

          Without making any sacrifices.



          I wish my GM had magical powers, just like you smile


          smile easy as that
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 57
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          you could do that too, im just saying what they can do in order to keep him aswell as some of the younger guys

          Yup but Waddell made a bad miscue here. Montreal signed a great player to a good contract… canes just signed a bottom 6 centre to 6.1m… and gave up asssets to do it. Not to mention the headaches this will make down the road for signing other RFA’s. I mean hey… my comparable is the 6m 5 goal scorer…
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          28 août 2021 à 18 h 58
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          Quoting: swinny
          You won't get Hertl without giving up a significant prospect..... and that one year left on the deal is playing with fire. No guarentee Hertl reups

          1st 3rd and a good prospect probably gets you Hertl. If you want kk back that bad sign him as ufa next season when he isn’t qualified.
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          Quoting: GenXHockey
          Yup but Waddell made a bad miscue here. Montreal signed a great player to a good contract… canes just signed a bottom 6 centre to 6.1m… and gave up asssets to do it. Not to mention the headaches this will make down the road for signing other RFA’s. I mean hey… my comparable is the 6m 5 goal scorer…


          Imagine it turns into another milan lucic contract after
          28 août 2021 à 19 h 0
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          Quoting: GenXHockey
          1st 3rd and a good prospect probably gets you Hertl. If you want kk back that bad sign him as ufa next season when he isn’t qualified.


          Sharks fans will have a differing opinion there.

          Waddell has successfully rooked Bergevin. Period. End of story.
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          28 août 2021 à 19 h 1
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          Quoting: McSchleep
          Imagine it turns into another milan lucic contract after


          It’s already worse. Lucic brings a lot on and off the ice. He is a fan favourite here in Calgary. 6.1m for kk…. 🤮
          28 août 2021 à 19 h 2
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          Quoting: swinny
          Sharks fans will have a differing opinion there.

          Waddell has successfully rooked Bergevin. Period. End of story.


          Nope, I don’t know how you see it that way. 1st and a 3rd for a bottom 6 centre making 6m is Waddell pissing into the wind.
          28 août 2021 à 19 h 14
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          oh no what will montreal do...
          *Places weber on ltir for the rest of his contract*


          The good move would be to take the picks and run... Then have Weber on LTIR and trade for a center with the Canes or their 1st pick.. 6.1 for KK is highly overpaid. He's 2.5-3M.. they would've never have gotten a 1st pick for him last year. Waddel is off his rockers..
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          28 août 2021 à 19 h 20
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          Quoting: swinny
          Sharks fans will have a differing opinion there.

          Waddell has successfully rooked Bergevin. Period. End of story.


          If by "successfully rooked" means putting your team in a bind out of spite by overpaying for a 3rd center, losing a 1st and 3rd then going over the cap hit then yes, I guess he did.

          At least Habs had the cap space and were getting a first centerman for the Aho offer. Yes, they were losing lots of 1st picks but a first center like Aho was worth the risk.. Waddel is over paying by 3M$ plus his 1st.. ouch

          Even then, if Bergevin wants to really keep KK, he just moves Weber on the LTIR for the rest of the season and he has plenty of space.. oh.. and for like, one year...
           
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