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Opening night lineup for every team - TBL edition

Créé par: LGuy54
Date de création initiale: aoû 26, 2021
Publié: 26 aoû à 16 h 20
Équipe: 2021-22 Lightning de Tampa Bay
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ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
DET
TBL
NYR
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
ANA
2024
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $80 740 955 $145 122 $0 $759 045 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Barré-Boulet, Alex
758 333 $
C
UFA - 3
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
4 800 000 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
TBL
Killorn, Alex
4 450 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Colton, Ross
1 125 000 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
737 500 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
900 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
TBL
Perry, Corey
1 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Bogosian, Zach
850 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
9 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Cernak, Erik
2 950 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
TBL
Elliott, Brian
900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
4 800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
TBL
Foote, Cal
850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TBL
Rutta, Jan
1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TBL
Seabrook, Brent
6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3

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26 aoû à 16 h 21
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Can't wait till you're finally done this, you must be very bored
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26 aoû à 16 h 23
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Quoting: HabsRSus
Can't wait till you're finally done this, you must be very bored


I have sooo many other ACGM's I wanna post but I can't cuz I don't wanna mess this up
26 aoû à 16 h 25
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Quoting: LGuy54
I have sooo many other ACGM's I wanna post but I can't cuz I don't wanna mess this up


you've already messed up don't worry
26 aoû à 16 h 25
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you've already messed up don't worry


how??
26 aoû à 16 h 29
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Quoting: LGuy54
how??


Rutta pared with Hedman
26 aoû à 16 h 38
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
Rutta pared with Hedman


Lmao you guys doing him dirty
26 aoû à 17 h 16
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Quoting: Juiceman
Lmao you guys doing him dirty


Considering Hedman has often been paired with Rutta the past two seasons, and they've mostly worked well together, not sure how they are "doing him dirty". Bogosian also worked fine with him while Rutta was injured during the 2020 playoffs, so one or the other will no doubt be paired with him.
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26 aoû à 17 h 24
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Barre-Boulet is likely wasted on the 3rd line. He has a great shot and has a high ceiling offensively, but on the 3rd line I doubt he will have much success with the Bolts. He should be on the 2nd line with Cirelli and Stamkos. I would pair Killorn with Colton and then either have Joseph as the RW if they want more speed, or one of Raddysh/Katchouk for a little more toughness perhaps. Perry could also slot in there and then have the 4th line be Maroon-PEB and a rotation between Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk to see what works best. Tampa will only be able to guarantee keeping one of Raddysh or Katchouk up, as the other will have to go through waivers or be traded(assuming that Barre-Boulet definitely has a spot here). Training camp and pre-season will determine this course of action though.
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26 aoû à 17 h 26
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Quoting: JTBF81
Barre-Boulet is likely wasted on the 3rd line. He has a great shot and has a high ceiling offensively, but on the 3rd line I doubt he will have much success with the Bolts. He should be on the 2nd line with Cirelli and Stamkos. I would pair Killorn with Colton and then either have Joseph as the RW if they want more speed, or one of Raddysh/Katchouk for a little more toughness perhaps. Perry could also slot in there and then have the 4th line be Maroon-PEB and a rotation between Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk to see what works best. Tampa will only be able to guarantee keeping one of Raddysh or Katchouk up, as the other will have to go through waivers or be traded(assuming that Barre-Boulet definitely has a spot here). Training camp and pre-season will determine this course of action though.


I just changed it based off your suggestion
26 aoû à 17 h 28
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Rutta plays with hedman.
26 aoû à 17 h 51
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Quoting: JTBF81
Considering Hedman has often been paired with Rutta the past two seasons, and they've mostly worked well together, not sure how they are "doing him dirty". Bogosian also worked fine with him while Rutta was injured during the 2020 playoffs, so one or the other will no doubt be paired with him.


Calling this poor man out. Lol I understand that Rutta plays with Hedman
26 aoû à 23 h 37
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Modifié 27 aoû à 1 h 09
Quoting: LGuy54
how??


Killorn isn't 3rd line Cirelli has had Killorn on the ice with Him Over 70% of
His career TOI Not Getting split up especially not for a rookie
26 aoû à 23 h 50
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Quoting: JTBF81
Barre-Boulet is likely wasted on the 3rd line. He has a great shot and has a high ceiling offensively, but on the 3rd line I doubt he will have much success with the Bolts. He should be on the 2nd line with Cirelli and Stamkos. I would pair Killorn with Colton and then either have Joseph as the RW if they want more speed, or one of Raddysh/Katchouk for a little more toughness perhaps. Perry could also slot in there and then have the 4th line be Maroon-PEB and a rotation between Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk to see what works best. Tampa will only be able to guarantee keeping one of Raddysh or Katchouk up, as the other will have to go through waivers or be traded(assuming that Barre-Boulet definitely has a spot here). Training camp and pre-season will determine this course of action though.


Really bad assumption
27 aoû à 1 h 16
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Barrie-boulett will fine on .the third line you certainly don"t take a
26.goal.guy 2 years ago and 15 in
56 this years for an unproven guy.really bad line decision
27 aoû à 9 h 23
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Killorn isn't 3rd line Cirelli has had Killorn on the ice with Him Over 70% of
His career TOI Not Getting split up especially not for a rookie


Quoting: JTBF81
Barre-Boulet is likely wasted on the 3rd line. He has a great shot and has a high ceiling offensively, but on the 3rd line I doubt he will have much success with the Bolts. He should be on the 2nd line with Cirelli and Stamkos. I would pair Killorn with Colton and then either have Joseph as the RW if they want more speed, or one of Raddysh/Katchouk for a little more toughness perhaps. Perry could also slot in there and then have the 4th line be Maroon-PEB and a rotation between Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk to see what works best. Tampa will only be able to guarantee keeping one of Raddysh or Katchouk up, as the other will have to go through waivers or be traded(assuming that Barre-Boulet definitely has a spot here). Training camp and pre-season will determine this course of action though.


@Bolts20Cup I was just listening to that other guy
27 aoû à 10 h 15
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Quoting: LGuy54
Bolts20Cup I was just listening to that other guy


That was more for the other guy
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Quoting: LGuy54
Bolts20Cup I was just listening to that other guy


That was more for the other guy
27 aoû à 15 h 07
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Really bad assumption


Nope, Barre-Boulet is not a grinder 3rd line/4th line type with a really good 2 way game. He has good awareness in the offensive zone and as previously mentioned, a good shot. Like Marchessault and Verhaeghe before him, if Tampa wants him to do little with the team and then watch him flourish elsewhere, great, keep him locked up in the bottom 6. Even with signing a 3 year deal, there's a reason he was put in the top 6 last year, as that's where he will be best utilized. It's also not like the Killorn-Cirelli-Stamkos line has been that effective for long stretches at times either. Additionally, Tampa will likely be losing at least one of Palat or Killorn in the next 1-2 years, so giving ABB(and possibly others) a larger role in the top 6 will give the team better knowledge who should be the long term replacement. Moving a vet like Killorn to the 3rd with Colton also spreads out the talent and doesn't make Tampa a 2 line team with weaker depth in the bottom 6.

Cirelli had his struggles for a great deal of last season, so giving him a new wing may not be the worst idea either. Killorn usually steps up big in the playoffs but he's not some gamebreaker that has to be in the top 6. If keeping him with Cirelli is paramount, then play them both on the "3rd line" with Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk and then have a more offensive oriented line of ABB-Colton-Stamkos. Cirelli was at his best when he could.be more of the 2 way, less offensive reliant C anyway, so keep him with Killorn in that role.

In any case, giving Barre-Boulet little ice time and expecting him to be helpful to the team as some 3rd line 2 way type is wasting his talents. For Raddysh or Katchouk, thos role could work well, but not ABB. I'm sure they won't though, and when ABB doesn't put up great numbers while being horribly deployed, it'll just be indicative of a bad coaching decision rather than ABB not being good enough. Maybe ABB doesn't have what it takes, despite all numbers at previous levels saying otherwise, but there's only one way to find out. After the team made the same mistake with Marchessault and it certainly looks like Verhaeghe, maybe the third time will be the charm(or perhaps it will be the 3rd strike in this regard).
28 aoû à 18 h 44
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Quoting: JTBF81
Nope, Barre-Boulet is not a grinder 3rd line/4th line type with a really good 2 way game. He has good awareness in the offensive zone and as previously mentioned, a good shot. Like Marchessault and Verhaeghe before him, if Tampa wants him to do little with the team and then watch him flourish elsewhere, great, keep him locked up in the bottom 6. Even with signing a 3 year deal, there's a reason he was put in the top 6 last year, as that's where he will be best utilized. It's also not like the Killorn-Cirelli-Stamkos line has been that effective for long stretches at times either. Additionally, Tampa will likely be losing at least one of Palat or Killorn in the next 1-2 years, so giving ABB(and possibly others) a larger role in the top 6 will give the team better knowledge who should be the long term replacement. Moving a vet like Killorn to the 3rd with Colton also spreads out the talent and doesn't make Tampa a 2 line team with weaker depth in the bottom 6.

Cirelli had his struggles for a great deal of last season, so giving him a new wing may not be the worst idea either. Killorn usually steps up big in the playoffs but he's not some gamebreaker that has to be in the top 6. If keeping him with Cirelli is paramount, then play them both on the "3rd line" with Joseph/Raddysh/Katchouk and then have a more offensive oriented line of ABB-Colton-Stamkos. Cirelli was at his best when he could.be more of the 2 way, less offensive reliant C anyway, so keep him with Killorn in that role.

In any case, giving Barre-Boulet little ice time and expecting him to be helpful to the team as some 3rd line 2 way type is wasting his talents. For Raddysh or Katchouk, thos role could work well, but not ABB. I'm sure they won't though, and when ABB doesn't put up great numbers while being horribly deployed, it'll just be indicative of a bad coaching decision rather than ABB not being good enough. Maybe ABB doesn't have what it takes, despite all numbers at previous levels saying otherwise, but there's only one way to find out. After the team made the same mistake with Marchessault and it certainly looks like Verhaeghe, maybe the third time will be the charm(or perhaps it will be the 3rd strike in this regard).


Yeah no kucherov.
Cirelli was hurt. amd and snakebit like Gourde during the.19/20
28 aoû à 18 h 50
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Killorn has averaged 26 goals/82games last 2 years
30 aoû à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Bolts20Cup
Yeah no kucherov.
Cirelli was hurt. amd and snakebit like Gourde during the.19/20


Killorn has been a .5 ppg player his whole career outside of basically 1-2 seasons. He brings alot to the team in other ways but he's not some great offensive threat Getting to play with Stamkos and being on PP1 of the best unit in the game should increase one's point and goal totals.

Cirelli wasn't injured during the regular season, he was in a slump plain and simple. I'm a big fan of him, but he's much better used as a more defensive oriented C who can also hopefully score ~50 points, not a line driving offensive ppg type.

Even with Kucherov out, ABB still got that spot over others who could've been moved up. If Cooper thinks ABB's going to help the team playing 12-14 minutes a night as some 2 way shutdown/checking type, he's sorely mistaken. That's never been ABB's game at all and so if that's how the team plans to use him, they'll waste him here. The top line should remain intact, but there is plenty of other options for the next two lines besides making the team top heavy. Having a very inexperienced 3rd line and then a very tough but slow 4th line is a poor use of the resources they have.

I would hope Cooper is willing to blend lines 2-4 some to see how different combinations work and not be obstinate about having to have certain players together. He finally showed a willingness to change his coaching/strategic approach after several years of doing the same thing and failing in the playoffs, so I have faith that he will play the best line combos possible, regardless of personnel.
 
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