Sabres need good forward prospects and a barbashev level rhd prospect

They definitely do, but holding back Eichel from surgery is going to cost him regular season time. That situation is such a mess. They still might be able to get a package, but it won't be what it was expected to be.

I think I addressed that with Wilde and Kessel. Barbashev himself I'm not too sure of what he will end up being

Im saying the Sabres dont care about RD prospects

I have no idea how I could've cracked that cryptic sentence lol. You did say a barbashev level rhd... Which doesn't make sense to me because barbashev is close to his full development and is a middling player right now

At this point theres a 0% chance he comes back to Buffalo i dont know why they dont just let him get it. This is why we should never allow people to have power over our own personal medical decisions

Barbashev is a bottom 6 forward, hes not someone that adds much value

Sports contracts definitely suck. It's almost like they purposely want him to be more miserable. If I were him I would look into filing a lawsuit against them for preventing him from doing his normal duties as an athlete. It's gotta be close to infringing on some type of employee safety law, but again, sports contracts suck.

I dont like this for the blues as they give up thomas put kostin or neighbors there instead

Cant because its part of the CBA, NHLPA agreed on it

I'm sure they did, but we're certainly getting close to a gray area. Prevention from playing because a disagreement in medical opinions should be sent to some type of arbitration/final opinion from a non-involved party (the NHL perhaps).

I agree which is why your original message makes no sense. Maybe reread what you wrote because I'm very confused.
If the blues would put in Kyrou instead of barbashev then great. But I think if they're giving both 1sts and Thomas they wouldn't want to but who knows. Barbashev is there for the cap hits to work. I happen to think the Sabres have some decent forward prospects and nothing at RHD. Fitzgerald and Laaksonen don't excite me too much. Wilde and Kessel add size with mobility. Get the forwards with the 22 and 23 picks where the drafts seem to be more high end skilled.

Interesting. This incident might open the subject during the next cba negotiation. Really rare but that's how rules are made I guess

And of course, this goes both ways. if a player holds back on a necessary surgery without the team's approval, they could be subject to a penalty.

My own thoughts are that the problem may be contract insurance will not cover the replacement surgery. The team will not risk $50M guaranteed for an uninsured surgery. I think the Eichel camp would have filed for medical arbitration if they thought they had a chance to win.
If there were some way to remove the teams financial and player asset risk (agree to the surgery he wants, but he insures his own $50M contract, and waives his NMC) I believe the team would let him get the surgery tomorrow.

Medical arbitration is already in the CBA under Article 17.

I would imagine there is an inclusion list of approved treatments between NHL medical advisors, NHLPA medical advisors, and their insurance providers.

The adoption rate of this procedure has been slow.
Most insurers stopped covering it around 2013, leading to fewer procedures and essentially killing the market for it (when it was a lumbar procedure). Cervical procedures are newer.

Before you get to the CBA and teams "protecting their investment", you have back room deals with providers to keep premiums down.

I would say players should be able to get non-approved procedures on the recommendation of their own medical consultant and cover it out-of-pocket.
Even if it means they are no longer covered under the collective plan and must provide their own insurance from that point on. At least they have some sort of choice then.
If teams don't like it, they can absolve the contract while retaining control of the player's rights for the remaining term. They can then choose to move that player for assets and the new team could negotiate a contract which takes his current status into account.

I think the Isles accept this. The thing is if we add VT then a top-9F has to go. My assumption is Bailey would go - cap next year and beyond also an issue if he's not moved.

Blues and eichel is a poor fit; gotta give up young players that they are already running low on. Adams probably sticks to Thomas + Kyrou + picks and there's just no way to build a team without those guys (with the contracts that are already on the books). Armstrong probably offers kostin + perunovich + neighbours + picks and the Sabres would balk, need a bigger headliner.

That's fair, but private insurance in the US is awful if it's not from an employer. I can't imagine what private insurance would cost for a pro athlete worth $10M annually plus the revenue he generates the league. That make it hairier. I'm somewhat surprised Eichel and co. haven't filed for medical arbitration, even if they know they'll lose. I feel like that's the next step in getting it done and getting him out of Buffalo.

The problem with medical arbitration is that it's binding. If Eichel elects arbitration and loses, then he only has two choices...get the grafting procedure that the team wants done or breach his contract, which likely means that he stops getting paid and Buffalo still retains his rights. By not filing a grievance, he can just remain on IR, continue to get paid, and hope for the team to come around eventually.

Im saying the 2 most valuable peices are RD prospects, they dont need that. They have Dahlin Power Samuelsson Jokiharju Bryson, and theres a real good chance all 5 are in the NHL next year

Too late at night to pull up the CBA, but if I remember correctly ...
The player is entitled to a 2nd medical opinion, but that's only to insure the player is adequately informed. The final decision is still the team's.
A 3rd party can only determine whether the player is fit to play.

Arbitration must be preceded by filing of a grievance. There are stipulations that require the parties to negotiate in good faith and only after can they file for arbitration. (I don't know if they've actually filed anything yet)

Worst case, Eichel breaks his contract and the NHL bans him. They can't kidnap him and operate against his will. There's something in the CBA that prevents either party from suing for damages.
The most they can do is fine, suspend and/or ban him, but only for what is allowed under the CBA.

I wouldn't. To many unknowns with tarasenko to give up a 1st for him, even retained. I also wouldn't be interested in giving up a top 9 forward for him because of those uncertainties. What happens if he's injured or is on a 14 goal pace (like last year)? I would want my top 9 and especially top 6 to not be dependant on him performing.
I'll make an acgm showing what I mean.