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Deadline

Créé par: hylyx
Date de création initiale: aoû 23, 2021
Publié: 23 aoû à 1 h 47
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Smith, Givani1900 000 $
Hronek, Filip34 275 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer22 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. 2022 3e round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
2.
DET
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. DeKeyser, Danny (2 500 000 $ retained)
  3. 2022 3e round pick (MIN)
3.
DET
  1. 2023 4e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Gagner, Sam
4.
DET
  1. Brown, Dustin
  2. 2022 2e round pick (LAK)
  3. 2022 3e round pick (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
assuming LA is in a wildcard spot at the deadline
LAK
  1. Leddy, Nick
5.
DET
  1. Rittich, David
  2. 2022 3e round pick (LAK)
NSH
  1. Greiss, Thomas
Rachats de contrats
  • Frans Nielsen: 4 250 000 $
  • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Danny DeKeyser: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
DET
DET
WSH
EDM
LAK
DET
PIT
LAK
DET
COL
VGK
DET
DET
2023
DET
DET
DET
DET
TOR
DET
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $62 743 890 $0 $4 651 250 $18 756 110 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Vrána, Jakub
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
DET
Raymond, Lucas
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
DET
Suter, Pius
3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Yamamoto, Kailer
2 200 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
DET
Zadina, Filip
894 167 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
DET
Veleno, Joseph
894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
DET
Berggren, Jonatan
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
DET
Erne, Adam
2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
1 460 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 3
LAK
Brown, Dustin
5 875 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Smith, Givani
900 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
DET
Staal, Marc
2 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
4 275 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
DET
Oesterle, Jordan
1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
DET
Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 3
NSH
Rittich, David
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
DET
McIsaac, Jared
764 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
DET
Stecher, Troy
1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
DET
Hirose, Taro
850 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
737 500 $
C
RFA - 1

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23 aoû à 1 h 51
#1
Ken Holland Hater
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23 aoû à 1 h 58
#2
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You think LA adds in a swap of Brown and Leddy?
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23 aoû à 2 h 02
#3
Xercuses
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Kings wont trade brown for that maybe leddy and two thirds for brown lmao
also why trade fabbri hes better than yammamoto
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23 aoû à 2 h 05
#4
Go Wings Go
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There's noway LA or Nashville make the playoffs, Most have Detroit higher then both. Would rather keep Fabbri over Yamamoto and doubtful DDK would even waive for Edmonton.
23 aoû à 2 h 19
#5
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I do think Fabbri would be good in Edmonton if he doesn't sign an extension, but the package is going to be different for a return.
Only other realistic one I see here is gagner to Toronto, but not for a fourth, more like a sixth.
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23 aoû à 4 h 05
#6
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
There's noway LA or Nashville make the playoffs, Most have Detroit higher then both. Would rather keep Fabbri over Yamamoto and doubtful DDK would even waive for Edmonton.


What do you mean Kings have no chance of making the playoffs? They actually have a really good chance of making the playoffs. Remember the regular divisions are back and the additions of Arvidsson, Danualt, Edler, and the development of the young players puts the Kings back into playoff contention.
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23 aoû à 4 h 07
#7
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Kings would have no interest in that deal. Dustin Brown would never be traded away from LA unless he request a trade which will not happen as well.
23 aoû à 6 h 19
#8
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Oilers downgrade from Yamamoto to Fabbri and give up a second? No thanks!
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23 aoû à 7 h 13
#9
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Lol so Edmonton not only gives up the player with significantly more value but throw in the better pick too?
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23 aoû à 7 h 28
#10
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
There's noway LA or Nashville make the playoffs, Most have Detroit higher then both. Would rather keep Fabbri over Yamamoto and doubtful DDK would even waive for Edmonton.


By most you mean you don't you?
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23 aoû à 7 h 29
#11
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Quoting: Timmah007
Lol so Edmonton not only gives up the player with significantly more value but throw in the better pick too?


Yamamoto is the single greatest player it's fanbase thinks deserves a long term 2 million dollar contract
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23 aoû à 7 h 30
#12
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Quoting: Artman91
What do you mean Kings have no chance of making the playoffs? They actually have a really good chance of making the playoffs. Remember the regular divisions are back and the additions of Arvidsson, Danualt, Edler, and the development of the young players puts the Kings back into playoff contention.


They are also in the by far weakest division in hockey so that helps.
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23 aoû à 7 h 31
#13
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I do think Fabbri would be good in Edmonton if he doesn't sign an extension, but the package is going to be different for a return.
Only other realistic one I see here is gagner to Toronto, but not for a fourth, more like a sixth.


Gagner would have trouble making the Marlies. The Leafs have 20 forwards ahead of Gagner
23 aoû à 8 h 16
#14
Lets go Preds
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
There's noway LA or Nashville make the playoffs, Most have Detroit higher then both. Would rather keep Fabbri over Yamamoto and doubtful DDK would even waive for Edmonton.

I’m willing to take that bet that Nashville finishes better than Detroit. I may be optimistic but this Is basically the same team that still finished 4th last year after a historically bad start. People tend to look at us dealing arvi and Ellis as rebuild days but if you actually watch the preds last year you seen they were expendable. As much as I dog on poile for some of the moves he made he still has the preds in playoff contention year in and year out. Last 17 years the preds have only missed the playoffs a total of 3 years. So I’m not counting the preds out just yet
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23 aoû à 8 h 34
#15
PlusMinus is stupid
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Why are we doing TDL trades in August? The very premise for all of these is significantly flawed, not to mention the value, until the season plays out...
23 aoû à 10 h 36
#16
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
They are also in the by far weakest division in hockey so that helps.


Exactly. Some of these people don’t deserve to watch hockey. 😂
23 aoû à 11 h 10
#17
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Yamamoto is the single greatest player it's fanbase thinks deserves a long term 2 million dollar contract

Fabbri will be a 26-year-old pending UFA rental while Yamamoto will be a 23-year-old under team control for several more years.

Past two seasons:
Yamamoto: 79, 19-28-47 (0.59 P/GP) +26
Fabbri: 91, 25-25-50 (0.55 P/GP) -30

Yamamoto clearly has far more value than Fabbri due to contract differences and similar performance. Why is this difficult for you to understand?
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23 aoû à 11 h 27
#18
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Quoting: CD282
Fabbri will be a 26-year-old pending UFA rental while Yamamoto will be a 23-year-old under team control for several more years.

Past two seasons:
Yamamoto: 79, 19-28-47 (0.59 P/GP) +26
Fabbri: 91, 25-25-50 (0.55 P/GP) -30

Yamamoto clearly has far more value than Fabbri due to contract differences and similar performance. Why is this difficult for you to understand?


I didn't say anything to suggest I care one way or another. I find it funny that you guys will on one hand say Yamamoto is a future star player who will scored piles of points and then also say he's a middle 6 winger who should take a 6 year deal paying him 2.5 million a year. Classic capfriendly fan double talk. Just justify bull**** to benefit yourself and rationalize stupid thoughts.
hylyx a aimé ceci.
23 aoû à 12 h 15
#19
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I didn't say anything to suggest I care one way or another. I find it funny that you guys will on one hand say Yamamoto is a future star player who will scored piles of points and then also say he's a middle 6 winger who should take a 6 year deal paying him 2.5 million a year. Classic capfriendly fan double talk. Just justify bull**** to benefit yourself and rationalize stupid thoughts.


No one is saying that he is a future star its just that Fabbri isn't as good, Yamo has upside as a top 6 winger. From what I see from similar contracts he'll get 2x2. I've never seen anyone anywhere seriously say 6x2.5.
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23 aoû à 12 h 27
#20
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Quoting: Gregzky
No one is saying that he is a future star its just that Fabbri isn't as good, Yamo has upside as a top 6 winger. From what I see from similar contracts he'll get 2x2. I've never seen anyone anywhere seriously say 6x2.5.


I have seen it multiple times from Oiler fans
23 aoû à 12 h 57
#21
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
I’m willing to take that bet that Nashville finishes better than Detroit. I may be optimistic but this Is basically the same team that still finished 4th last year after a historically bad start. People tend to look at us dealing arvi and Ellis as rebuild days but if you actually watch the preds last year you seen they were expendable. As much as I dog on poile for some of the moves he made he still has the preds in playoff contention year in and year out. Last 17 years the preds have only missed the playoffs a total of 3 years. So I’m not counting the preds out just yet


Dude you lost Rinne to retirement, Traded Arvidsson lost Ellis without replacing any of them. You might finish slightly higher then us but you're not making the playoffs.
23 aoû à 12 h 59
#22
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Artman91
What do you mean Kings have no chance of making the playoffs? They actually have a really good chance of making the playoffs. Remember the regular divisions are back and the additions of Arvidsson, Danualt, Edler, and the development of the young players puts the Kings back into playoff contention.


Possibly only because they play in a garbage division, Where any crap team can make the playoffs.
23 aoû à 13 h 04
#23
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I didn't say anything to suggest I care one way or another. I find it funny that you guys will on one hand say Yamamoto is a future star player who will scored piles of points and then also say he's a middle 6 winger who should take a 6 year deal paying him 2.5 million a year. Classic capfriendly fan double talk. Just justify bull**** to benefit yourself and rationalize stupid thoughts.

Strawman. Nobody is saying this here on this thread. Stick to the topic at hand.
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23 aoû à 13 h 55
#24
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Possibly only because they play in a garbage division, Where any crap team can make the playoffs.


I wouldn’t consider Kings a trash team. Detroit certainly. But not LA
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23 aoû à 14 h 29
#25
Pistol Pete
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Edmonton won't trade Yamo until 23-24 when his 1.5x2year bridge deal is done and they can no longer afford to keep him after his two 45- 50 point seasons.
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