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Créé par: Islesforthecup
Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 16 août 2021
Publié: 16 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Kaprizov can't come to terms with Minnesota. From everything I've seen on this site, if Minny is trading Kaprizov they'd want futures to rebuild. More could be added if needed (Wilde, Holmstrom).
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RFAANSCAP HIT
44 250 000 $
22 750 000 $
37 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
62 500 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
24 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
2.
NYI
  1. Ekholm, Mattias (1 875 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill [Droits de RFA]
MIN
  1. Koivula, Otto [Droits de RFA]
  2. Komarov, Leo
  3. Räty, Aatu
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
4.
5.
NYI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Pánik, Richard
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 5
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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16 août 2021 à 15 h 16
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Minnesota is really, really good. They're like us from 18-19. I doubt they want futures
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 16
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The Man: Travis Zajac
The Myth: Zach Parise
The Legend: Kyle Palmieri
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 19
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with that being said it'd be so sexy
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 22
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I would probably accept that deal, but I wonder if there would be an additional small throw-in for the retention.

Josi - Fabbro
Farrance - Myers
Bolduc - Carrier

that's a pretty solid, young d-core
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 23
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Lou might be the only one to convince KK to take $7M per year.
16 août 2021 à 15 h 23
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That's not even close to acceptable for Kaprizov
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 27
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Quoting: linehan10
Minnesota is really, really good. They're like us from 18-19. I doubt they want futures


Like I said that's all that I've seen. But if they would want win now pieces I wouldn't be interested. It wouldn't make sense to blow up the whole team for him.
16 août 2021 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: Ritzy
Lou might be the only one to convince KK to take $7M per year.


Its literally the Barzal deal. Not sure why that's a crazy contract.
16 août 2021 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: villenash
I would probably accept that deal, but I wonder if there would be an additional small throw-in for the retention.

Josi - Fabbro
Farrance - Myers
Bolduc - Carrier

that's a pretty solid, young d-core


I based it off some conversations I saw you had lmao. In terms of retention I guess someone like Golyshev if you want but it is only 1×1.875. You're not going to get a lot for that.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: linehan10
Minnesota is really, really good. They're like us from 18-19. I doubt they want futures


They could be good but if KK situation doesn’t go the way they want it to I could see them going into a mini rebuild. They don’t have anybody to replace somebody of that caliber and they won’t be able to afford any big time FAs with those massive buyout years coming up. They could get a massive haul on a retained sign and trade deal for KK and come out of the buyout years stacked.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 30
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If the Wild want futures for Kap, they would want either picks from bottom-feeders or elite prospects. Selling Kaprizov would send them to a full rebuild and a couple of contender-firsts would not cut it.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
I based it off some conversations I saw you had lmao. In terms of retention I guess someone like Golyshev if you want but it is only 1×1.875. You're not going to get a lot for that.


With covid seasons and down revenue, that's still nearly $2m -- Poile has also never retained salary in any trade in his career (pretty sure).
16 août 2021 à 15 h 33
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with that being said it'd be so sexy


I think this is a cup favorite. Considering the last 2 years and the moves we made this offseason. Dermott>Greene Kaprizov>Eberle Ekholm>Leddy. All we did is upgrade, and considering Tampa is worse i think we would have a really good chance to win.
16 août 2021 à 15 h 35
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With covid seasons and down revenue, that's still nearly $2m -- Poile has also never retained salary in any trade in his career (pretty sure).


So I'll throw in Golyshev or a 4th/5th round pick.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 40
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If the Wild want futures for Kap, they would want either picks from bottom-feeders or elite prospects. Selling Kaprizov would send them to a full rebuild and a couple of contender-firsts would not cut it.


What team has the assets, the cap space, and the want to go get Kaprizov? Obviously every team wants him but which team is gonna want to pay the price for him? The only teams that have those assets are revilers and they're not moving those assets. 2 1sts, Raty, and koivula is a solid offer for Kaprizov IMO. Then you have to take into account if they are trading him it's bc both sides refuse to give in so they lose leverage in trade talks because of that.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 42
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They could be good but if KK situation doesn’t go the way they want it to I could see them going into a mini rebuild. They don’t have anybody to replace somebody of that caliber and they won’t be able to afford any big time FAs with those massive buyout years coming up. They could get a massive haul on a retained sign and trade deal for KK and come out of the buyout years stacked.


I don't see a retained sign and trade happening (even if they can't come to an agreement) but if it would, that would certainly drive the price up both because of value and because more teams would be involved as they could fit him into the cap.
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 43
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That's not even close to acceptable for Kaprizov


Ok so what is a fair deal according to you?
16 août 2021 à 15 h 46
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
What team has the assets, the cap space, and the want to go get Kaprizov? Obviously every team wants him but which team is gonna want to pay the price for him? The only teams that have those assets are revilers and they're not moving those assets. 2 1sts, Raty, and koivula is a solid offer for Kaprizov IMO. Then you have to take into account if they are trading him it's bc both sides refuse to give in so they lose leverage in trade talks because of that.


The Wild don't have any need to trade him so if nobody wants to pay the price, they'll just keep him. This is different than, let's say, the Eichel situation. Two picks probably not even in the top25 and a 2nd-round prospect will get outbidded instantly in the market. (Koivula isn't good, he is 22 years old. He played in Finland where I'm from and I got to see his play a lot. He didn't look like a future full-time NHLer.)
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 47
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There is nothing extraordinary coming back to the Wild. Your 1st round picks are late ones and Räty is a fine prospect. Considering we are giving you an extraordinary asset in Kaprizov, that offer is not enough.
16 août 2021 à 15 h 47
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16 août 2021 à 15 h 48
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Sure wild will trade kaprizov for nothing. nobody and cap dump like omg
16 août 2021 à 15 h 49
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Ok so what is a fair deal according to you?


The Islanders don't have the pieces to make a good Kaprizov deal.
16 août 2021 à 16 h 11
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I keep seeing this bellows for Dermott trade. I just don’t understand why Toronto wants to trade an nhl Dman for a non nhl forward.
16 août 2021 à 16 h 13
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16 août 2021 à 16 h 30
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Quoting: RaZZe
The Wild don't have any need to trade him so if nobody wants to pay the price, they'll just keep him. This is different than, let's say, the Eichel situation. Two picks probably not even in the top25 and a 2nd-round prospect will get outbidded instantly in the market. (Koivula isn't good, he is 22 years old. He played in Finland where I'm from and I got to see his play a lot. He didn't look like a future full-time NHLer.)


Oh so they'll lose him for nothing? No problem have fun.
 
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