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16 août 2021 à 1 h 48
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Did you purposely trade for Mailloux?
16 août 2021 à 1 h 49
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Quoting: Juiceman
Did you purposely trade for Mailloux?


Yes.
16 août 2021 à 1 h 50
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Yes.


Ok but why?
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16 août 2021 à 1 h 51
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Ok but why?


How else are you going to be able to move Kane, if not for a problematic prospect and a bad contract?
16 août 2021 à 1 h 57
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Quoting: Juiceman
Did you purposely trade for Mailloux?


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Ok but why?


we have a history of taking on problems and then turning around with us! and the kid posted a picture he shouldn’t have. he was a young kid playing with men trying to impress them and he did a stupid thing! but, what was done in the picture was consensual, he didn’t rape her, he made a bad mistake and he is paying for it, he should be given a 2nd chance.. but he better compensate her for the damage he did to her reputation and be on a short leash. just like merkley our first from a few years back who had attitude issues but not a peep since we drafted him.
Kane is the one issue we weren’t able to fix sadly!
16 août 2021 à 1 h 58
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we have a history of taking on problems and then turning around with us! and the kid posted a picture he shouldn’t have.
what was done was consensual he didn’t rape her, he made a bad mistake he should be given a 2nd chance.. but he better compensate her for the damage he did to her reputation and be on a short leash. just like merkley our first from a few years back who had attitude issues but not a peep since we drafted him.
Kane is the one issue we weren’t able to fix sadly!


Yeah but still there will be a lot of backlash and memes about going from one troubled player to another… probably not a good look for the organizations
16 août 2021 à 2 h 4
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Sorry but I dont vibe with trading a piece of sh*t for another, younger piece of sh*t
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16 août 2021 à 2 h 6
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WOW.

Yeah, I'd rather buy Kane out and deal with the financial hit than bring Mailloux onto the team. I don't actually have a lot of faith in Doug these days, but I don't think he's that stupid.

EDIT: I wholeheartedly second what FunMustBeAlways said. We don't need to trade trash for trash, thanks.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 9
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Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
Sorry but I’m dont vibe with trading a piece of sh*t for another, younger piece of sh*t


To judge others is not our duty, but to help them. Teenagers always make mistakes, which doesn't mean their heart is necessarily dirty, and Kane is in a big hole, the only way he can get out of it is by playing hockey which he does well. Give them a chance.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 12
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Yeah but still there will be a lot of backlash and memes about going from one troubled player to another… probably not a good look for the organizations


the Gambling issues are not the problem the attitude and locker room issues are why he is on the block. sharks were dealing with his gambling issues, and frankly i’d rather have a kid who made one colloidal error trying to impress his teammates rather than an asshole! even if the ass is a top like power forward like kane! and montreal had the players and power to keep him in check for 2-3 years.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 14
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Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
Sorry but I dont vibe with trading a piece of sh*t for another, younger piece of sh*t


he is a kid who was trying to impress his teammates he’s not a piece of ****. he’s a dumb kid who is paying the price and i believe he will be a good player who you won’t have any issues with mark my words!
16 août 2021 à 2 h 14
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Quoting: Kopitar11
To judge others is not our duty, but to help them. Teenagers always make mistakes, which doesn't mean their heart is necessarily dirty, and Kane is in a big hole, the only way he can get out of it is by playing hockey which he does well. Give them a chance.


Great. You can petition the Kings to trade for Kane and Mailloux then so that y'all can "help them."

And for the record, a teenage mistake is, like, idk, sneaking out after curfew so you can get drunk with your friends and blowing a stats test the next day. Revenge porn is not a "mistake," it's an actual crime that has actual real life victims who have to deal with the fallout forever. Keep that trash away from my team, thanks.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 15
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can’t we all remember the stupid things we did in locker rooms as kids! he was stupid not evil people.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 17
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
he is a kid who was trying to impress his teammates he’s not a piece of ****. he’s a dumb kid who is paying the price and i believe he will be a good player who you won’t have any issues with mark my words!


Oh, pray tell, what price did he pay? Getting drafted in the 1st round instead of the 2nd, where he was projected to go?

Regardless, Doug confirmed that he was nowhere on our board at the draft and I'd like to think that means he wouldn't be dumb enough to trade for him.
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Great. You can petition the Kings to trade for Kane and Mailloux then so that y'all can "help them."

And for the record, a teenage mistake is, like, idk, sneaking out after curfew so you can get drunk with your friends and blowing a stats test the next day. Revenge porn is not a "mistake," it's an actual crime that has actual real life victims who have to deal with the fallout forever. Keep that trash away from my team, thanks.


he who is without sin throw the first stone!
don’t destroy a young mans career for one mistake!
if he raped a girl or killed someone i would think otherwise
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
can’t we all remember the stupid things we did in locker rooms as kids! he was stupid not evil people.


Rob, honey, you do realize that you just, like, admitted to committing sex crimes as a kid, right? Maybe quit while you're ahead.
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16 août 2021 à 2 h 19
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Oh, pray tell, what price did he pay? Getting drafted in the 1st round instead of the 2nd, where he was projected to go?

Regardless, Doug confirmed that he was nowhere on our board at the draft and I'd like to think that means he wouldn't be dumb enough to trade for him.


i would like to think our society could be reasonable! besides if he makes the nhl and is a good player with no future problems, then he can compensate her accordingly!
everyone is better off
16 août 2021 à 2 h 22
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Rob, honey, you do realize that you just, like, admitted to committing sex crimes as a kid, right? Maybe quit while you're ahead.


wow way to accuse someone of something heinous jerk.
he didn’t rape her he showed teammates a pic of his sexy life and it got out! i showed friends picks of girls i slept with and i’ve seen pictures the difference was i am not in the public eye.

but keep acting like your perfect!!! we all believe you.
16 août 2021 à 2 h 37
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
wow way to accuse someone of something heinous jerk.
he didn’t rape her he showed teammates a pic of his sexy life and it got out! i showed friends picks of girls i slept with and i’ve seen pictures the difference was i am not in the public eye.

but keep acting like your perfect!!! we all believe you.


Are you saying you took pictures of your sexual partners while engaged in sexual activities without their knowledge or consent and then shared those pictures with your friends? Because if so, yeah, that's revenge porn and it's absolutely illegal in Canada, the UK, and most US states. If you just, like, pulled up a girl's insta profile and showed them non-pornographic images that she consented to having taken, then that's a-ok.

"He didn't rape her" -- no, he didn't. But that doesn't make what he did okay. There's so, so, so many forms of sexual assault and sexual harassment that are devastating to victims and nobody should excuse them just because they aren't rape. He victimized a young woman and hasn't even bothered to give her a sincere apology - you might be super chill with that, but I'm not. That's not a good person in my book and I don't care how talented he is - I hope he washes out completely and never sets foot on NHL ice.

ETA: I'm far from perfect, but I've also never taken advantage of any of my sexual partners, nor have I ever done anything without their consent. I must say, I feel generally pretty okay about that.
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16 août 2021 à 2 h 41
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
he is a kid who was trying to impress his teammates he’s not a piece of ****. he’s a dumb kid who is paying the price and i believe he will be a good player who you won’t have any issues with mark my words!


Huh? You can try to impress your teammmates by not being a garbage human being. Not mutually exclusive. Most normal people don’t blackmail/show nude pics women to “impress” others. You have to be a sad, sad man to think that’s at all okay. He’s a piece of ****.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
can’t we all remember the stupid things we did in locker rooms as kids! he was stupid not evil people.


I’ve played hockey my entire life (at times relatively competitively) and I’ve never, ever done anything like this. And neither has anyone I’ve ever played with to my knowledge. And I’ve played with quite a few questionable kids.
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16 août 2021 à 3 h 14
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Quoting: Kopitar11
To judge others is not our duty, but to help them.


Is it really not? Cause this is basically the mindset that lead to Bradley Aldrich sexually abusing college students and vulnerable high-schoolers.

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Teenagers always make mistakes, which doesn't mean their heart is necessarily dirty


True but you can’t tell me someone who intentionally spread unsolicited nudes didn’t have malicious intent. We’re not talking about accidentally rear-ending someone while driving we’re talking about sex crimes here.

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Kane is in a big hole, the only way he can get out of it is by playing hockey which he does well. Give them a chance.


I can deal with “character issues” but when you do as many terrible things as Kane allegedly has over the years, at some point you need to draw the line. He’s been given chance after chance after chance, but ultimately decided to do bad stuff anyway. I’m done with him too.
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16 août 2021 à 4 h 8
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Quoting: FunMustBeAlways
Is it really not? Cause this is basically the mindset that lead to Bradley Aldrich sexually abusing college students and vulnerable high-schoolers.



True but you can’t tell me someone who intentionally spread unsolicited nudes didn’t have malicious intent. We’re not talking about accidentally rear-ending someone while driving we’re talking about sex crimes here.



I can deal with “character issues” but when you do as many terrible things as Kane allegedly has over the years, at some point you need to draw the line. He’s been given chance after chance after chance, but ultimately decided to do bad stuff anyway. I’m done with him too.


Let me tell you, the greatest criminals never live in jails. So if you're going to ban a kid for his bad deed, you're not going to ban the evil of his heart. So ban the evil of his heart, not the kid. You yourself have no power to change but yourself alone, so judge yourself alone, not others. Let that be your judgment. The kid got what he deserved, for he unveiled the bad deed of the girl, his own bad deed got unveiled before the world, and now he's the recipient of your curses, and the world is going to know him as evil. Trust me, that is a fate far worse than being put into jail. So if he doesn't change himself after all this, then be he gone into hell, but if he changes himself, then he should remain proud.

Kane is a fool, he ruined his own life, but we shouldn't cut off his only route towards salvation, or else what is the difference between us and him.
16 août 2021 à 5 h 53
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Regardless of your view on Mailloux, Montreal didn't go through all the trouble and backlash of drafting him just to trade him for a piece of crap like Kane. Montreal is in it for the long haul now with Mailloux.
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16 août 2021 à 7 h 54
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Burns is way bigger of a cap dump than Gardiner. Even at a retained rate I don’t want to pay him until he’s over 40. And on top of that we’re adding prospects and picks? Sharks should be sending prospects and picks the other way. Plus Gardiner is a likely LTIR candidate. No thanks.
 
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