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IDK on value just a thought

Créé par: xercuses
Date de création initiale: aoû 12, 2021
Publié: 12 aoû à 12 h 15
Équipe: 2021-22 Blues de St-Louis
Explications
ADD whatever need to be added to the deal as i am having trouble with value
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Thomas, Robert32 750 000 $
Transactions
STL
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Engvall, Pierre
TOR
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. 2023 2e round pick (STL)
  3. 2024 2e round pick (STL)
STL
  1. 2022 4e round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Kaspick, Tanner
  4. 2022 3e round pick (STL)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
STL
STL
ARI
STL
STL
2023
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
2024
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 019 548 $306 349 $425 000 $2 480 452 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
STL
Perron, David
4 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
STL
Buchnevich, Pavel
5 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
STL
Thomas, Robert
2 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
STL
Kyrou, Jordan
2 800 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
STL
Saad, Brandon
4 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
STL
Schenn, Brayden
6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 7
STL
Kostin, Klim
863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
STL
Sanford, Zachary
2 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
STL
Barbashev, Ivan
2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
STL
Krug, Torey
6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
STL
Parayko, Colton
5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
STL
Binnington, Jordan
6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 6
STL
Mikkola, Niko
787 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
STL
Faulk, Justin
6 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 6
STL
Husso, Ville
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
STL
Walman, Jake
725 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
1 375 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
STL
MacEachern, Mackenzie
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
STL
Clifford, Kyle
1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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12 aoû à 12 h 17
#1
Bunting For Hart
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I think I would just have cheaper, younger Nylander
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12 aoû à 12 h 17
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That's probably a fair deal, but I dont see Toronto making that trade.
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12 aoû à 12 h 18
#3
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Alex Nylander plays for he hawks
12 aoû à 12 h 19
#4
Bunting For Hart
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Quoting: Chopper02
That's probably a fair deal, but I dont see Toronto making that trade.


To be fair to the guy the value is there, but Dubas is high on his guys, Nylander has a cheaper contract, and is younger.
12 aoû à 12 h 19
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Quoting: Chopper02
That's probably a fair deal, but I dont see Toronto making that trade.


That isnt even close to fair, that is horrific for the leafs
12 aoû à 12 h 20
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Quoting: Nate
To be fair to the guy the value is there, but Dubas is high on his guys, Nylander has a cheaper contract, and is younger.


That's why I don't see it happening. Plus Nylander and Tarasenko are two totally different players. Toronto has two snipers in Matthews and Tavares. Why add another sniper to that top 6 instead of having two really good set up guys who can also score?
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12 aoû à 12 h 22
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
That isnt even close to fair, that is horrific for the leafs


It's a fair deal. Leafs fans, such as yourself, are notorious for overvaluing players. There are other reasons why the trade doesn't happen, but value wise this is good.
12 aoû à 12 h 26
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Quoting: Chopper02
It's a fair deal. Leafs fans, such as yourself, are notorious for overvaluing players. There are other reasons why the trade doesn't happen, but value wise this is good.


Uh huh, right so "fair value " is a young 1st line winger on a cheaper, longer deal for a disgruntled more expensive guy who hasnt been healthy in 2 years and is coming off a bunch of shoulder surgerie.
Someone is over valuing players here and it isnt me
12 aoû à 14 h 56
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Uh huh, right so "fair value " is a young 1st line winger on a cheaper, longer deal for a disgruntled more expensive guy who hasnt been healthy in 2 years and is coming off a bunch of shoulder surgerie.
Someone is over valuing players here and it isnt me


Tarasenko is a 1st liner sniper who according to his doctor is healthy and was looking really good at the end of the season. Only 2 years left on his deal plus getting two 2nds on top of him. So yeah, it's a fair deal, but it's not part of Toronto plans.
12 aoû à 15 h 05
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Quoting: Chopper02
Tarasenko is a 1st liner sniper who according to his doctor is healthy and was looking really good at the end of the season. Only 2 years left on his deal plus getting two 2nds on top of him. So yeah, it's a fair deal, but it's not part of Toronto plans.


William nylander had as many goals in these past playoffs as tarasenko had the past 2 seasons is almost 5 years younger, cheaper, healthy with actual on ice performance proof of it and looked incredible at the end of last season.
Two late 2nds dont make up that gap, so no, it's not a fair deal
12 aoû à 15 h 07
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
William nylander had as many goals in these past playoffs as tarasenko had the past 2 seasons is almost 5 years younger, cheaper, healthy with actual on ice performance proof of it and looked incredible at the end of last season.
Two late 2nds dont make up that gap, so no, it's not a fair deal


They do actually. You may not think so, but it's a fair offer. Again, Toronto won't do it because they dont need to do it.
12 aoû à 15 h 09
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Quoting: Chopper02
They do actually. You may not think so, but it's a fair offer. Again, Toronto won't do it because they dont need to do it.


No, they dont. Old broken players do not have close to the value of young healthy ones and that is even before you factor in contracts.
Just because you think it doea doesnt make it true
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