If Coyle does not step up

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Créé par: AgentWebster

Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 11 août 2021

Publié: 11 août 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

With the cap going up in 2022-23

https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2021/08/06/nhl-salary-cap-reportedly-projected-to-rise-in-2022-23/#:~:text=A%20rise%20to%20%2482.5%20million%20in%202022-23%20would,escrow%20balance%20owed%20to%20owners%20is%20paid%20off.

Make or break year IMO for Charlie Coyle with playing on the 2nd line with Hall and Smith. I also wouldn’t be surprised if it was at time with Hall and Pastrnak. If he does not have a good year he needs to be moved. His CLAUSE DETAILS: 2020-22: Player submits a 10 team no trade list; 2022-25: Player submits an 8 team no trade list; 2025-26: Player submits a 3 team no trade list.

If Aleksander Barkov wants to leave I think Boston would be a great fit and we would only have the cap by shipping out Coyle.

After seeing Dougie Hamilton haul in $9 million annually on a seven-year deal with the New Jersey Devils, McAvoy could set his sights on a similar deal.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
McAvoy, Charlie		8	9 000 000 $
Studnicka, Jack		3	1 250 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Bergeron, Patrice		2	5 000 000 $
Barkov, Aleksander		7	10 000 000 $

Transactions

BOS

Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

ARI

Moore, John
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

Or any team

BOS

Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

FLA

Coyle, Charlie

Détails additionnels:

Or any team that is not on his list.

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	82 500 000 $	78 179 167 $	0 $	150 000 $	4 320 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Bergeron, Patrice 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Barkov, Aleksander 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 8	Smith, Craig 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Foligno, Nick 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Haula, Erik 2 375 000 $2 375 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Nosek, Tomas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1		Wagner, Chris 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
	Frederic, Trent 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Forbort, Derek 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	McAvoy, Charlie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD UFA - 8	Ullmark, Linus 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Grzelcyk, Matt 3 687 500 $3 687 500 $ DG UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Swayman, Jeremy 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) G RFA - 1
Reilly, Mike 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Clifton, Connor 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1

11 août 2021 à 15 h 38

Juiceman

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Barkov gets more on the open market

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 40

CMcAvoy73

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I think both mcavoy and barkov end up at 11

11 août 2021 à 15 h 46

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Mcavoy is better than all the d men that just signed with the exception of makar. He could easily ask 11+ on a long term deal

11 août 2021 à 15 h 48

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Coyle is not worth a 2nd if he comes out slow next year

He's not worth that now...His contract sucks and if he's not good this season he becomes a cap dump so you'll be paying the 2nd to lose him

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11 août 2021 à 15 h 50

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I think both mcavoy and barkov end up at 11

There’s a lot of players that could take more but depending on a hometown discount and comparable contracts it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Charlie takes a deal close to what Hamilton got.

Not saying your wrong but Barkov could also get 11 sure but also he might wanna leave some on the table to help spread around a little bit to build a championship team like what the Bruins have.

11 août 2021 à 15 h 56

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I think both mcavoy and barkov end up at 11

Nah I don't see him getting much more than Makar (7 digits).

11 août 2021 à 15 h 59

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Quoting: AgentWebster

That concept about leaving a little on the table has worked for the bruins…with their own players. Once a guy gets to the point where he can get offers from every team in the NHL, that’s going to be tough. 11 might be a discount. Players like him don’t hit the market very often, and they never hit the market at 26. Is it crazy to think seattle might offer 7x12.5? I don’t think so.

As far as mcavoy goes, we haven’t seen many cases of a player of his caliber getting his third deal in RFA lately. Mcavoy is certainly in the makar category, and makar just took 9 million on his second deal, a long way from UFA. I would think McAvoy has to come in significantly higher than that, based on proximity to UFA, age, contract length, and arbitration eligibility.

11 août 2021 à 15 h 59

CMcAvoy73

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

Nah I don't see him getting much more than Makar (7 digits).

Not comparable situations for the reasons listed above.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 2

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Why would Florida (or any team) give up a 2nd for Coyle if he's not preforming?

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 3

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Not comparable situations for the reasons listed above.

I disagree. I don't think mcavoy is on the same level as Makar (IMO it's fox Hedman Makar, and then mcavoy Hamilton and that group). And also while yes it's his 3rd contract, he still is an RFA so I don't think he gets 8 digits.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 8

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

Eh, whatever. Pretty clearly he’s a top five NHL d man, so ya. He’s in that group. Once you’re at that point it boils down two what you value more (offense, defense, two-way etc). One thing I will say is don’t you dare put him in the same category as hamilton, who is so far behind mcavoy he can’t even see him. Hamilton was the canes third best d man for f sakes. He’s worth every penny of 11. Bruins best player by a country mile.

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 12

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Coyle has a full nmc every year, he isnt waiving unless BOS arent contenders anymore

11 août 2021 à 16 h 14

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Quoting: KennyBoi

Coyle has a full nmc every year, he isnt waiving unless BOS arent contenders anymore

But not a full no trade. There is a difference

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 17

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

But not a full no trade. There is a difference

yes i understand, IF he wants to be traded then he submits the no trade team's. But he wont want to be traded unless like i mentioned above

11 août 2021 à 16 h 20

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Quoting: KennyBoi

yes i understand, IF he wants to be traded then he submits the no trade team's. But he wont want to be traded unless like i mentioned above

Well, he has a 10 team no trade list now. He doesn’t exactly have all the say in the world.

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11 août 2021 à 16 h 21

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

I think the point is that McAvoy's next deal will eat up more UFA years while Makar's deal only covers (i believe) 1 UFA year. I think Werenski's deal is probably a better comp for McAvoy and i think most would agree McAvoy is a better all-around player. BOS has had success keeping their guys at below-market numbers so we'll see. But I don't think Makar's deal will factor in much as a comparable.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 26

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

He could be the best bruin very nice, but saying Hamilton is way behind mcavoy and was the canes 3rd best dman is just ignorant. He literally was 4th in Norris voting.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 27

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Quoting: Heyhowareya37

Yeah maybe I just don't see him getting 8 digits.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 32

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

He could be the best bruin very nice, but saying Hamilton is way behind mcavoy and was the canes 3rd best dman is just ignorant. He literally was 4th in Norris voting.

Ya because the Norris has turned into a points contest. Being considered for the Norris while not being one of the highest scoring d men is absurdly rare.

The Hurricanes thought dougie was the third best option at D. Maybe even fourth at times.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 32

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

Yeah maybe I just don't see him getting 8 digits.

Ya because you’re just not looking at the situation at all.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 38

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I mean the dman who led the league in points this year didn't get a single Norris vote so that take doesn't really work.
If you think the canes thought he was their 3rd dman you're dreaming sorry bud.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 39

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Ya because you’re just not looking at the situation at all.

Ok Lmao. I guess we'll see next summer.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 40

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Quoting: UBS_ARENA

I mean, cmon bud. You don’t even believe your own argument regarding the Norris, do you?

Why didn’t hamilton play more than slavin and pesce then?

11 août 2021 à 16 h 43

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CMcAvoy73

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Ok Lmao. I guess we'll see next summer.

There’s a million scenarios that are possible. One year bridge. 8 year. Middle of the road term. He could take that discount that everyone is hoping for (myself included). There isn’t going to be an answer when he signs.

I think he’s an 11M player. You disagree, and that’s fine. I’m guessing a lot of people that judge d men strictly on their PP production are going to think the same way. The makar contract comparable is what i think is well, just kinda stupid. It’s apples and oranges.

11 août 2021 à 16 h 47

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Well, he has a 10 team no trade list now. He doesn’t exactly have all the say in the world.

I dont think you understand what im trying to say. He has a full nmc, it doesnt matter if he has a 10 team, 8 team or 3 team no trade list, he still needs to give the ok to sweeney if there is a trade in place. And i doubt a Massachusetts native is waiving his nmc unless the team isnt a contender anymore

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