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Finishing off the Roster

Créé par: TheEarthmaster
Équipe: 2021-22 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2021
Publié: 11 août 2021
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Thomas and Beauvillier contracts values come via Evolving-Hockey's contract projections.

Beauvillier has been mentioned by Rutherford as a potential piece in a Tarasenko to Islanders trade. Acquiring Beauvillier allows the Blues to keep Kyrou and Thomas together on the third line, and also allows them to move up accordingly when injuries occur without damaging the roster. Scandella and Leddy have similar 5v5 profiles so he'll be able to eat similar minutes in New York but is unlikely to have the same power play impact. That said, Scandella is probably their best option over guys like Gardiner, Simek, Kulak, assuming Pittsburgh (foolishly) won't trade with a division rival, and Scandella's acquisition cost here is low given what defensemen are going for these days. He's also a guy you can push down the lineup with a Bolduc, Aho, or Dobson emergence. Not a lot of LHD available, especially with Dunn likely staying put in Seattle. Blues take on Komarov's salary to help the Isles out and also beef up their fourth line. Would also be willing sub in Clutterbuck as I think the two are mostly comparable but Isles fans seem like favor the latter.

In my opinion the Blues need another true defensive defenseman to pair with Parayko, but one who can handle bigger minutes than Bouwmeester did in the shutdown pair's prime. Pettersson is the best option for my money. He plays moderately tough minutes in Pittsburgh and has had solid underlying results. Pittsburgh also needs to shed some salary and probably wouldn't mind making room for POJ. Pettersson has been mentioned as the odd man out here by Rossi. This gives them a depth RHD to act as their seventh/push Friedman and they get a decent pick.

Open to all thoughts and criticisms!
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  1. Beauvillier, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
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  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir
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Clears cap space for Pittsburgh as well as opening up a full time LHD spot for POJ. Gives St. Louis a legit top four defensive defenseman to pair with Parayko, ideally an upgraded version of the old Bouwmeester-Parayko magic
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  1. Bortuzzo, Robert
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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Insurance RHD for Pittsburgh in case Friedman or Ruhwedel can't handle the minutes. Also clears a full time roster spot for Mikkola/Walman/Perunovich.
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11 août 2021 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
That was in his athletic article which was behind a paywall, so he's not just getting clicks.



NHL rumors daily, on the other hand, is very much trying to get clicks to coddle the apparently very fragile egos of Isles fans. I should have known, they cry every time someone says their team that has faded down the stretch in two consecutive seasons and would have missed the playoffs if not for Covid twice says they are bad


The classic I have lost the debate, have no facts to back up my opinion so will resort to insults.
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11 août 2021 à 14 h 51
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I'm so sorry my *checks notes* mock trade where I give you guys a potential top line player and a LHD to fill the role you need and take back extra salary from your team makes you feel like I'm entitled. Grow up, it's a freaking fantasy roster and you're all butthurt


The odds of Tarasenko having a top line impact are extremely low. Scandella is barely worth league minimum and the Islanders do not need to move Komarov. Credit to you for proposing a trade that f*cks the Islanders. Beauvillier is significantly better than Tarasenko. God you sound like such a p*ssy
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11 août 2021 à 14 h 56
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I really don't want to move Beauvillier, but I'd honestly rather move him than Bailey if we had to move someone to bring in Tarasenko. The Islanders are in a real pickle here, especially if they are bringing Palmieri back.
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The classic I have lost the debate, have no facts to back up my opinion so will resort to insults.


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The odds of Tarasenko having a top line impact are extremely low. Scandella is barely worth league minimum and the Islanders do not need to move Komarov. Credit to you for proposing a trade that f*cks the Islanders. Beauvillier is significantly better than Tarasenko. God you sound like such a p*ssy


A debate has literally never been won online so not sure what you're on about. I'm just saying it's fitting that the fanbase that has people who get all worked up about stats people saying their team is bad is also has members getting worked up about a random Blues fan they don't know trading for a player they like.

Everything I've said is true and fact based. Tarasenko is on the block. Beauvillier has been rumored. That's undeniable. You can attack the credibility of people you don't know I guess, but then don't get mad at me when I do the same. You have given me nothing to suggest NRD has been credible other than to say "Staples sucks", and NRD said that teams should be/are calling on Beauvillier. Doesn't mean they're going to trade him, as I said a million times, but that's what the trade was based on and I'm not sure what else you would want someone to base a trade on. Sorry for offending you so!
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I really don't want to move Beauvillier, but I'd honestly rather move him than Bailey if we had to move someone to bring in Tarasenko. The Islanders are in a real pickle here, especially if they are bringing Palmieri back.


Thankfully you’re not the GM. Beauvillier is a lw, Bailey is a RW. Beauvillier is also much better than Bailey. If Tarasenko gets traded to the islanders (unlikely) , it won’t be Beauvillier going the other way.
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Thankfully you’re not the GM. Beauvillier is a lw, Bailey is a RW. Beauvillier is also much better than Bailey. If Tarasenko gets traded to the islanders (unlikely) , it won’t be Beauvillier going the other way.


Imagine thinking players can only play one side of the rink. Couldn't be me.
11 août 2021 à 15 h 7
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Thankfully you’re not the GM. Beauvillier is a lw, Bailey is a RW. Beauvillier is also much better than Bailey. If Tarasenko gets traded to the islanders (unlikely) , it won’t be Beauvillier going the other way.


For the record, I don't want to move either. I want to ride with the forward group we have (assuming we are bringing back Palmieri, Cizikas, and Zajac and signing Parise). I'm just saying if I had to choose, it'd be Beau over Bailey. But the deal would have to be too good to pass up. This is not one of those deals.
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Quoting: Db1899
Rutherford is a moron. Beauvillier confirmed in an interview a few days ago that he will be back with the islanders and a contract should be announced soon.

Tarasenko is damaged goods and Scandella is a #6 D. It is hilarious that Blues fans think that acquiring Beauvillier is realistic


Watch him pot 30+ this year and someone overpay for him at the TDL.
11 août 2021 à 15 h 9
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A debate has literally never been won online so not sure what you're on about. I'm just saying it's fitting that the fanbase that has people who get all worked up about stats people saying their team is bad is also has members getting worked up about a random Blues fan they don't know trading for a player they like.

Everything I've said is true. Tarasenko is on the block. Beauvillier has been rumored. That's undeniable. You can attack the credibility of people you don't know I guess, but I don't know where that gets you when they've been credible before. You have given me nothing to suggest NRD has been credible other than to say "Staples sucks", and it should be said that teams are calling on Beauvillier. Doesn't mean they're going to trade him, as I said a million times, that's what the trade was based on and I'm not sure what else you would want someone to base a trade on. Sorry for offending you so!


- Beau has never been rumored, writers have said that is who they would want. Rumors and wishlists are two different things.
- Have not attacked anyone's creditability, have stated no one has inside information on Lou or the other signings would have been leaked.
- Did not say Staple Sucks, said he has no inside information.

Good try though.
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For the record, I don't want to move either. I want to ride with the forward group we have (assuming we are bringing back Palmieri, Cizikas, and Zajac and signing Parise). I'm just saying if I had to choose, it'd be Beau over Bailey. But the deal would have to be too good to pass up. This is not one of those deals.


And this is what a fair nuanced criticism looks like. Take notes @Db1899
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A debate has literally never been won online so not sure what you're on about. I'm just saying it's fitting that the fanbase that has people who get all worked up about stats people saying their team is bad is also has members getting worked up about a random Blues fan they don't know trading for a player they like.

Everything I've said is true. Tarasenko is on the block. Beauvillier has been rumored. That's undeniable. You can attack the credibility of people you don't know I guess, but I don't know where that gets you when they've been credible before. You have given me nothing to suggest NRD has been credible other than to say "Staples sucks", and it should be said that teams are calling on Beauvillier. Doesn't mean they're going to trade him, as I said a million times, that's what the trade was based on and I'm not sure what else you would want someone to base a trade on. Sorry for offending you so!



It has never been said that the Islanders have made Beauvillier available , just that teams have asked about him. There’s a difference.

NRD had pageau to the Isles a month before it happened, said Boychuk was going on LTIR before anyone else had it, Palmieri to the Isles etc…if you care that much to see proof go and look for it yourself.
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And this is what a fair nuanced criticism looks like. Take notes Db1899


Nah you just like it that he said he’d prefer to move Beauvillier over Bailey.
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11 août 2021 à 15 h 12
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Imagine thinking players can only play one side of the rink. Couldn't be me.


Bailey has been terrible when he’s played left well wing. He’s much more comfortable on the right side, where he’s played for most of his career. Good try though
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Watch him pot 30+ this year and someone overpay for him at the TDL.


It’s more likely he’ll score less than 20 and ends up on IR
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And this is what a fair nuanced criticism looks like. Take notes Db1899


I mean, his analysis isn't wrong. The Islanders need to make practically perfect trades, so we're very particular with offers that come through.

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Bailey has been terrible when he’s played left well wing. He’s much more comfortable on the right side, where he’s played for most of his career. Good try though


I don't remember him playing LW since like 2013 with Tavares. He's a much different player than back then.
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- Beau has never been rumored, writers have said that is who they would want. Rumors and wishlists are two different things.
- Have not attacked anyone's creditability, have stated no one has inside information on Lou or the other signings would have been leaked.
- Did not say Staple Sucks, said he has no inside information.

Good try though.


What are these if not rumors? How are they any less credible than anything else you guys have said? You specifically have provided no evidence for your opinion, so don't come talking to me about facts. Your opinion that they're not moving Beau but then saying we have no inside information at all because Lou hasn't leaked anything seems...contradictory? How do you know what he's up to if we have no knowledge at all?

Db said Staples knows nothing and I quoted him as well. That's who that was directed at and maybe I should have been more clear.
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Nah you just like it that he said he’d prefer to move Beauvillier over Bailey.


I mean I do like that but I also like the part where they said but I also like the part where he said they'd rather roll with the forward group they have and actually provided something to the conversation. Opinions are fine, and you're welcome to not like the trade but to say it isn't going to happen and say that people know nothing and that I'm entitled and you have all the right information is just insane ego. I said multiple times that my mock trade on freaking Capfriendly doesn't mean anything lmao
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I mean, his analysis isn't wrong. The Islanders need to make practically perfect trades, so we're very particular with offers that come through.



I don't remember him playing LW since like 2013 with Tavares. He's a much different player than back then.


He’s plays left wing when Trotz puts the lines in a blender and late in games.
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He’s plays left wing when Trotz puts the lines in a blender or late in games.


I honestly can't recall a time that's happened. I believe you, just can't remember.
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The classic I have lost the debate, have no facts to back up my opinion so will resort to insults.


Literally one of their first comments was that I was entitled to have suggest a Beau trade yet you say I'm resorting to insults bruh I didn't start that tire fire, look at your fellow fans
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It’s more likely he’ll score less than 20 and ends up on IR


I'd bet you a case of beer but you're probably 14 years old and just repeating r/hockey.
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What are these if not rumors? How are they any less credible than anything else you guys have said? You specifically have provided no evidence for your opinion, so don't come talking to me about facts. Your opinion that they're not moving Beau but then saying we have no inside information at all because Lou hasn't leaked anything seems...contradictory? How do you know what he's up to if we have no knowledge at all?

Db said Staples knows nothing and I quoted him as well. That's who that was directed at and maybe I should have been more clear.


Quoting: TheEarthmaster
I mean I do like that but I also like the part where they said but I also like the part where he said they'd rather roll with the forward group they have and actually provided something to the conversation. Opinions are fine, and you're welcome to not like the trade but to say it isn't going to happen and say that people know nothing and that I'm entitled and you have all the right information is just insane ego. I said multiple times that my mock trade on freaking Capfriendly doesn't mean anything lmao


I literally said that Beauvillier confirmed that he will be back with the Islanders and a contract should be announced soon. That should be enough to put these “rumors” to bed. Instead you went off trying to justify why it makes sense to make the awful trade you proposed lol. You (and many other blues fans on social media) act like Beauvillier to STL is bound to happen when it makes 0 sense for the Islanders.
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11 août 2021 à 15 h 27
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I'd bet you a case of beer but you're probably 14 years old and just repeating r/hockey.


Ah yes the guy who has 2 even strength goals in 24 games last season is going to put up 20 goals. His underlying numbers were trash as well and hes turning 30 soon. The Blues were a better team without him on the ice
11 août 2021 à 15 h 30
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I literally said that Beauvillier confirmed that he will be back with the Islanders and a contract should be announced soon. That should be enough to put these “rumors” to bed. Instead you went off trying to justify why it makes sense to make the awful trade you proposed lol. You (and many other blues fans on social media) act like Beauvillier to STL is bound to happen when it makes 0 sense for the Islanders.


I never said it was bound to happen, multiple times said I didn't even think it was necessarily likely for Beau to move, don't project what other Blues fans are saying onto me. You don't like the deal and that's fine but I don't know what else there is to say at this point. As for Beau's interview, I personally wouldn't take any stock closing off other trade rumors until a contract is signed but that's just me and we just don't know that yet
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Literally one of their first comments was that I was entitled to have suggest a Beau trade yet you say I'm resorting to insults bruh I didn't start that tire fire, look at your fellow fans


They are posting insults as well, so you two can go back and forth insulting each other.
 
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