And which ducks fan exactly?

Even if the Ducks gave up on Steel they don’t trade him for a 31 year old 3rd pairing defense man

Safe to say whoever proposed that is alone in thinking that would at all benefit ANA (I know it wasn’t you I’m just blown away a Ducks fan wanted that 😂)

Yeah no thanks. Not interested in that. Maybe I'd consider it if it was fifty percent retained.

Our colleague @TheJoeMan. I'm not convinced that it's such a bad idea. If you accept the premise that Steel isn't progressing, and he might not exceed 25 points this season, then this is a good thought: we get an experienced defenseman to play the third pair who is signed cheaply for term and who is both an upgrade on Larsson and could step up in the case of injury (horrors!) to Cam Fowler or Hampus Lindholm.

You guys might not like the idea, and you might not agree with Joe's evaluation of Scandella's on-ice merits, but you cannot deny that it has both a realistic and a rational basis.

Gonna have to agree to disagree here, I don’t think it’s realistic or rational for the Ducks to even consider it. I’d rather have a 4th round lottery ticket than Scandella keeping Mahura/Guhle/Thurn/Lacombe blocked for 3!!!!! Seasons. Even if Steel never becomes more than a 3C the Ducks lose this trade now and in the future.

Even if Steel doesn’t take that step Scandella is one of the last players that should be on ANAs radar. Makes no sense to me even in the slightest

Fair enough! Glad we can have these discussions!!

Yep, same here. Wilde's going to cost anyone who wants him, because he's a RD prospect with promise.

HAHAHAHA good joke bro
maybe try a realistic trade next time

Pathetic. I know you think tarasenko gets Barzal and Wahlstrom back but heads up, his value is shot to hell rn.

I dont think that but what i do know is you think hes worth a 4th line grinder whos a cap dump, New flash his value may be down but hes stil very very good worth at least a second and a b level prospect. Get a grip man, Your value is way, way off. Once you figure it out then maybe you should comment

Still catches me off guard when we don't agree on things nice to know we do have seperate minds sometimes

Never said he's worth a cap dump. But his value isn't very high rn. Two seconds and Wilde for tarasenko at 3.75 plus a small cap dump isn't a crazy offer in any way.

Who says Scandella will block any of those players? This could very well be the last season of Lindholm and Manson and it's not like we're high on the list for veteran d-men to sign here in case they walk or get traded. And who's to say Shattenkirk is here beyond next season? The way I look at it, we need a legit LHD and we don't have a guy in our system I feel comfortable with taking that role. I've seen enough out of Larsson, Guhle and Mahura. Scandella is better than all three of them and doesn't make a ton of money. If he had one less year on his deal I would be banging on Murph's door to make this happen right now. I'm excited about the prospect of Thrun and Lacombe but they aren't even signed and will undoubtable require at least one full year in San Diego, if not more, so there's really no threat to blocking them with this move. No more than holding onto Larsson would.

Let me ask you this: do you think the Ducks would be better in 21-22 with Larsson or Scandella? Also, do you want them to be better? I want them to win but also to keep an eye on the future. Murph could make a ton of moves right now to ship out a bunch of young guys to load up on vets to try to make an on-paper playoff team or he can stand pat and have re-signing Getzy be his only move with on eye on absolutely sucking again. I don't him to do either (which isn't to say Scandella would be the difference between absolutely sucking and being competitive, but it would definitely moves things towards the latter).

Larsson and Steel were first round picks and they have absolutely stagnated. Steel and Lundestrom are redundant and we simply need a better option at LHD3. I think it's critical that Murph recoup some value for those two first rounders and made some attempt at shoring up our D. I think this deal can achieve that.

Imo its Wilde and a second for VT at full cap then a second to retain 2.5 or take hickey back
PS sorry for being rude

All good nothing personal, but hickey won't cost a 2nd to move. I would move a 2nd and Wilde for tank at 5.5-6 million, and then a 2nd to retain the rest plus hickey. I think that's pretty fair.

Eh would still rather just take Komorov and hickey back then retain but thats just me

Yeah but we don't have the room. A tarasenko trade will have to be retained plus we'll have to move those 2 guys separately.

maybe move bailey to a team for a guy like appleton or another bottom 6 scorer and picks

IMO moving bailey to clear cap for tank is a loss for the isles. Also we could just have a 3rd team (Detroit, Arizona, Anaheim etc) retain and then none of us have that cap.

I agree but if lou really wants VT its just an idea but for sure another team can retain