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21 août 2021 à 4 h 42
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Well this really escalated..... Maybe I can provide a more reasonable MIN fan perspective....

First - GMBG will allow Kaprizov to rot in Russia for 3 years before they trade his rights. That would change if they get some sort of absolutely ridiculous return for these rights. But I don't see that happening. You usually don't see 'big deals' made simply for 'the right to negotiate'. Now, if he was already signed for at least the next 3 years, it would be different. But he isn't. He is un-signed. And the ONLY way he plays in the NHL for the next 3 years is if GMBG decides to allow it. That is why I ultimately think he re-signs in Minny. His only choices are to compromise with Minny or be stuck in Russia for 3 years. I doubt he'd pick the latter.

And, yes, his agent does have a very long reputation of damaging relationships between teams and players. That has been VERY well documented over time.

And, yes, I agree that the 'call to go home' looms over A LOT of Russian players. That is why players like Datsyuk, Panarin, Kaprizov, etc tend to fall in the draft. But, if he were to 'skip out' on a 6-year deal to go home, he would be 'refusing to report' and would then be 'suspended'. Or, both parties could mutually agree to terminate the contract. In either case, he wouldn't be hurting the cap because the 'over 35 rule' doesn't apply (at least I think that is how it works).

And last, most Wild fans are pretty realistic folks (maybe it is just a midwestern US thing). We usually don't get a worked up as Amok-what-the-F-ever... And oh my dear lord... Someone... Please.... Start proof-reading his posts... Just brutal.... Even if he made a good point, I'm not sure I'd be able to read / understand it. Just awful. Anyway.... Yeah... Regarding this trade in particular...

It is intriguing. I'll give you that. However, I think that due to Alexis' lack-luster debut, it would need to be Rask instead of Hartman. I'd probably be OK with that.

But... Again... I really doubt the Rangers are going to give up a #1 overall with a 900k cap hit for the next 2 seasons (and looking to sign a bridge deal) + Strome + Kreider for Rask + 'The opportunity to deal with the worst agent in the NHL'. Frankly, I don't think ANY team would be willing to give up much for 'negotiating rights' in this case. Which circles me back to my original point.... I think he signs in Minny because his agent has painted him into a corner. He has no choice. But hey.... I've been wrong in the past....


Thank you sir for your great take on this trade, you Sir have me believing there are Minnesota fans that aren’t loco when mentioning a Kaprizov trade lol

My thinking for the Rangers trading for him was that the Rangers think they can sign him quickly by giving him whatever he wants so he can shoot the lights playing with his countrymen Panarin on the opposite wing. James Dolan is a very impatient man if you casually follow the Knicks you already know that lol
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23 août 2021 à 13 h 50
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I almost (note: 'almost') want to see him traded to NYR just so I can say I watched Zibanejad, Panarin, Kaprizov & Fox on the same PP unit.... It wouldn't even matter who the 5th body was... It would just be ridiculous... Absolutely ridiculous... Not even a little fair... I'm sure they'd get split up into 2 units most of the time but you'd see them on the ice together if NYR were down late and drew a penalty. Would be must-watch hockey for sure!!!

As far as 'playing with countrymen' is concerned... I've heard this is somewhat complicated when referring to Russian / Eastern European players... Panarin isn't exactly 'waving the Russian flag' all the time. He has been openly critical of Russia and (especially) the Russian gov't on several occasions. If Kaprizov is one of those hard core ' anything for the Mother Land' types of Russian, then he and Panarin may not get along well. I don't think this would impact their play in the ice. If anything, it just may not be as big of a 'bargaining chip for contract negotiations' as you might think.
21 sept. 2021 à 22 h 45
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His agent put him in a corner. He knew he had no choice but to sign (which is why he came back to the states several days before the deal was inked).
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