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Kap 50 retention 20

Créé par: mnwild17
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2021
Publié: 10 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
310 000 000 $
87 250 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Retention, Kaprizov
35 000 000 $
Transactions
MIN
  1. Brown, Dustin (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Byfield, Quinton
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $77 749 422 $0 $4 232 500 $3 750 578 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, C
RFA - 3
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Retention, Kaprizov
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

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10 août 2021 à 11 h 25
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It's too early in the morning to be having what you're having.

Kings wouldn't do Byfield-Kaprisov 1 for 1.
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 26
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I really don’t think it will take $10M to sign him for 3 years. I think he’d drop down to 8M if we budge on term.
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 26
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Kings decline. That's way too much for a guy who already has a contract lined up in the KHL.
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 28
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Kings decline. That's way too much for a guy who already has a contract lined up in the KHL.


For 3 years of Kap at 5m cap hit?? Playing with Kopitar as well? I think they’d be tempted
10 août 2021 à 11 h 32
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For 3 years of Kap at 5m cap hit?? Playing with Kopitar as well? I think they’d be tempted


The full trade is: The Kings leading goal scorer last season with 2.5M retained, Gabe Vilardi (2017 - 11th overall) , Quinton Byfield 2020 -2nd overall), two unprotected firsts, and a third. And even then the Kings are over the cap. You have destroyed the major points of the Kings rebuild, their picks for the future, and last seasons leading goal scorer. So yeah, this makes the Kings bad short term, mid term, and long term
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 34
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I wouldn't give this haul up for Eichel.
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 47
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The full trade is: The Kings leading goal scorer last season with 2.5M retained, Gabe Vilardi (2017 - 11th overall) , Quinton Byfield 2020 -2nd overall), two unprotected firsts, and a third. And even then the Kings are over the cap. You have destroyed the major points of the Kings rebuild, their picks for the future, and last seasons leading goal scorer. So yeah, this makes the Kings bad short term, mid term, and long term


The leading goal scorer of a team that finished 6th in a weak division whos 36 with a 5m cap hit and 1 year left....
10 août 2021 à 11 h 54
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The leading goal scorer of a team that finished 6th in a weak division whos 36 with a 5m cap hit and 1 year left....


So last season Dustin Brown (17 goals) + Gabe Vilardi (10 goals) is a loss of 27 goals, who you replace with Kaprizov who had 27 goals last season. The Kings have no net difference in goals, lose center depth (Vilardi), their best prospect (Byfield), and best recent graduate (Vilardi), two 1st rounders, and a 3rd. It really isn't hard to see who has the advantage in this trade.
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10 août 2021 à 11 h 57
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So last season Dustin Brown (17 goals) + Gabe Vilardi (10 goals) is a loss of 27 goals, who you replace with Kaprizov who had 27 goals last season. The Kings have no net difference in goals, lose center depth (Vilardi), their best prospect (Byfield), and best recent graduate (Vilardi), two 1st rounders, and a 3rd. It really isn't hard to see who has the advantage in this trade.


And Kaprizovs center last year was Victor Rask..... do you really not think he’d put up more goals with Kopitar??
10 août 2021 à 11 h 59
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And Kaprizovs center last year was Victor Rask..... do you really not think he’d put up more goals with Kopitar??


I don't even know if he'll play in the NHL which is why you are desperately trying to see what value teams would pay. The Kings wouldn't move Byfield for Eichel, you have to be crazy to think they would move him for a handful of years of Kaprizov.
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10 août 2021 à 12 h 9
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Thats way too much for Kaprizov, hes 24 so its not like he has exponential potential growth, he is what he is at this point really. Hes a big threat to return to the KHL as well.
10 août 2021 à 12 h 47
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Absolutely not. Vilardi and a first I could understand. The rest of that is insanity.
10 août 2021 à 13 h 56
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Absolutely not. Vilardi and a first I could understand. The rest of that is insanity.

Kap has 3 years of control if he was a 5m cap hit his cost per point would be basically the same as Mackinon, he’s only going to do better playing with Kopitar or any competent center. Guys worth more than Vilardi and a 1st.
10 août 2021 à 14 h 3
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Thats way too much for Kaprizov, hes 24 so its not like he has exponential potential growth, he is what he is at this point really. Hes a big threat to return to the KHL as well.


“He is what he is at this point” so he’s a PPG player where you would be picking up a Cap hit for him if 5m for the next 3 years? That contract would be the biggest bargain in the NHL. He’s a better goal scorer than Panarin and put up similar point production in his first year. Panarin also played with better players his first year. The Panarin trade was for cap reasons, Wild would get a significantly better return.
10 août 2021 à 14 h 11
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“He is what he is at this point” so he’s a PPG player where you would be picking up a Cap hit for him if 5m for the next 3 years? That contract would be the biggest bargain in the NHL. He’s a better goal scorer than Panarin and put up similar point production in his first year. Panarin also played with better players his first year. The Panarin trade was for cap reasons, Wild would get a significantly better return.


Yes hes an almost point per game 75-82 point player whos contract walks him right into UFA. That return is too much for that. If you think thats the biggest bargain in the NHL you should check out Mackinnon, Marchand, Pastrnak, Barkov.

Youre getting from LA

Best Prospect
Top 6 FWD prospect
2 potential lottery picks
And Dustin Brown (who you are asking LA to retain on)

cmon man
10 août 2021 à 14 h 23
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Again, not giving up a 7th for this guy, the Kings have had enough problems with Russian players to invite one more.
10 août 2021 à 14 h 53
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Yes hes an almost point per game 75-82 point player whos contract walks him right into UFA. That return is too much for that. If you think thats the biggest bargain in the NHL you should check out Mackinnon, Marchand, Pastrnak, Barkov.

Youre getting from LA

Best Prospect
Top 6 FWD prospect
2 potential lottery picks
And Dustin Brown (who you are asking LA to retain on)

cmon man


Marchands 2nd contract was 4x4.5 those 4 years he didn’t put up PPG numbers till the final year of that deal. Those were his age 25-28 years. To say that this contract wouldn’t be a bargain at a 5m cap hit is wild. And the fact he put up his numbers with VICTOR RASK as his center means he can carry a line and will be Marchand level playing with Kopitar at a lower cost. To give up that much is very much worth it.
10 août 2021 à 15 h 0
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Marchands 2nd contract was 4x4.5 those 4 years he didn’t put up PPG numbers till the final year of that deal. Those were his age 25-28 years. To say that this contract wouldn’t be a bargain at a 5m cap hit is wild. And the fact he put up his numbers with VICTOR RASK as his center means he can carry a line and will be Marchand level playing with Kopitar at a lower cost. To give up that much is very much worth it.


Where at all did I say it wasn’t a good contract? You said it was the best in the league, I said no it isn’t and gave examples of better contracts. Completely ignoring the fact that the trade itself is terrible
10 août 2021 à 15 h 7
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Where at all did I say it wasn’t a good contract? You said it was the best in the league, I said no it isn’t and gave examples of better contracts. Completely ignoring the fact that the trade itself is terrible


Outside Mackinon, Barkov and Pasta, Kap at 3 or 4 years by 5M is a bargain. Also need to factor in that Barkovs contract is up after this year and Pasta and Mackinon are up in 2 years. The value you get from Kap being on a contract at that low of a cap hit is well worth giving up Byfield and a first. MN retaining 5m on the contract gets us another first, and also taking on Dustin browns final year is worth another asset. Valardi probably stays out of the trade, but It being Kap for Byfield 2 firsts and Dustin brown allows LA to have extra cap this year and go for it next 2 years as Turcotte and Valardi develop.
10 août 2021 à 15 h 9
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Outside Mackinon, Barkov and Pasta, Kap at 3 or 4 years by 5M is a bargain. Also need to factor in that Barkovs contract is up after this year and Pasta and Mackinon are up in 2 years. The value you get from Kap being on a contract at that low of a cap hit is well worth giving up Byfield and a first. MN retaining 5m on the contract gets us another first, and also taking on Dustin browns final year is worth another asset. Valardi probably stays out of the trade, but It being Kap for Byfield 2 firsts and Dustin brown allows LA to have extra cap this year and go for it next 2 years as Turcotte and Valardi develop.


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10 août 2021 à 17 h 9
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Kap has 3 years of control if he was a 5m cap hit his cost per point would be basically the same as Mackinon, he’s only going to do better playing with Kopitar or any competent center. Guys worth more than Vilardi and a 1st.


No, he's not. That sound you don't hear is the cadre of knowledgeable fellow Wild fans coming to your support. The fact that he's holding you guys up after one year is a bad, bad sign. I hope that Fiala and Kaprizov don't turn into this season's Eichel and Reinhart.
10 août 2021 à 17 h 27
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No, he's not. That sound you don't hear is the cadre of knowledgeable fellow Wild fans coming to your support. The fact that he's holding you guys up after one year is a bad, bad sign. I hope that Fiala and Kaprizov don't turn into this season's Eichel and Reinhart.


Apologies for not realizing that a 23 year old who put up just under a PPG in his first year of North American hockey playing with an incompetent center has officially peaked, my bad. We still have his rights for the next 3 years. He is clearly bluffing here but he may be burning every bridge in MN to do it. Unless he puts up 100+ points in his years in Russia he’s not going to get over 9M when he comes back by playing the next 3 years there and he knows it
 
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