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Créé par: swinny
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2021
Publié: 9 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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VAN
  1. Smith, Ty
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Additives would be minor imo.
NJD
  1. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
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2381 500 000 $63 548 992 $648 780 $3 800 000 $17 951 008 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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UFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1

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9 août 2021 à 20 h 23
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Canucks hang up the phone before Tom Fitzgerald can even say Quinn
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9 août 2021 à 20 h 25
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Canucks hang up the phone before Tom Fitzgerald can even say Quinn


The impending cap hell the Canucks will soon embark upon may suggest otherwise, but hey, what do I know.
9 août 2021 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: swinny
The impending cap hell the Canucks will soon embark upon may suggest otherwise, but hey, what do I know.


Cap hell? We have 19 million in cap space this year. We have even more next year. We aren’t in cap hell. We are just not super cap flexible…
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9 août 2021 à 20 h 26
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Quoting: swinny
The impending cap hell the Canucks will soon embark upon may suggest otherwise, but hey, what do I know.


Is this also what you think the Canucks line up would look like or did you just not bother to actually make the team?
9 août 2021 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: swinny
The impending cap hell the Canucks will soon embark upon may suggest otherwise, but hey, what do I know.


Yeah easy no and cap hell? you have Hughes signing for 6.5mill lmao if that was the price he would have been re-signed by now its an easy no don't kid yourself
9 août 2021 à 20 h 32
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Don't think Quinn to NJ ever happens via trade because the asking price will be too high. But, I do believe that once Quinn becomes a UFA, you guys don't stand a chance in signing him. He is going to want to play with his brothers in Jersey. At that point, all three brothers will be in their prime and the Devs could literally build a Hughes dynasty.
9 août 2021 à 20 h 51
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Don't think Quinn to NJ ever happens via trade because the asking price will be too high. But, I do believe that once Quinn becomes a UFA, you guys don't stand a chance in signing him. He is going to want to play with his brothers in Jersey. At that point, all three brothers will be in their prime and the Devs could literally build a Hughes dynasty.


Or they plan to go to DET 🤔 for obvious reasons but it would be faster and easier to all join NJD
9 août 2021 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: jrdroge25
Don't think Quinn to NJ ever happens via trade because the asking price will be too high. But, I do believe that once Quinn becomes a UFA, you guys don't stand a chance in signing him. He is going to want to play with his brothers in Jersey. At that point, all three brothers will be in their prime and the Devs could literally build a Hughes dynasty.


in the mean time we are gonna enjoy watching him.Hughes dynasty would be awesome to see.
9 août 2021 à 20 h 59
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I think Canucks should consider the trade. I'm betting that the Hughes want to be united as soon as possible. The delay on is contract might be term if he wants out of Vancouver in four years. IMO it isn't isn't necessarily good to have three brothers on the same team. There might be a tenacity to worry about themselves instead of the team.
9 août 2021 à 21 h 6
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Quoting: palhal
I think Canucks should consider the trade. I'm betting that the Hughes want to be united as soon as possible. The delay on is contract might be term if he wants out of Vancouver in four years. IMO it isn't isn't necessarily good to have three brothers on the same team. There might be a tenacity to worry about themselves instead of the team.


It’s already been stated that he is committed to Vancouver.
9 août 2021 à 21 h 14
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It’s already been stated that he is committed to Vancouver.


Means absolutely nothing what is said he public. The Canucks management and Hughes certainly don't want to "throw each other under bus" during negotiations.
Do you believe when players says, "I want to stay with my current team" Then months later they sign as UFAs elsewhere. Or GMs say "We are committed to our group", then trades are made.
GMs saying "We aren't making a coaching change, he's our guy", then shortly afterwards the coach is fired.

Coaches, GMs, players don't show their hand especially in contract negotiations to the public. They have to something to the press/public, but c'mon so much isn't true.
9 août 2021 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: palhal
Means absolutely nothing what is said he public. The Canucks management and Hughes certainly don't want to "throw each other under bus" during negotiations.
Do you believe when players says, "I want to stay with my current team" Then months later they sign as UFAs elsewhere. Or GMs say "We are committed to our group", then trades are made.
GMs saying "We aren't making a coaching change, he's our guy", then shortly afterwards the coach is fired.

Coaches, GMs, players don't show their hand especially in contract negotiations to the public. They have to something to the press/public, but c'mon so much isn't true.


Doesn’t matter. He’s still staying in Vancouver for a while. He has to be signed, he can’t be offer sheeted. I don’t Quinn is the kind of person to completely tear down an organization just to be with his brothers. He has literally no leverage to go to NJD and just because his bros are there doesn’t mean he immediately wants to head over there ASAP. I mean look at the Staal brothers. They were on the same team but later moved onto different teams. Quinn Hughes most definitely will not be traded. The most likely scenario of him leaving is in UFA in 8-11 years
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Doesn’t matter. He’s still staying in Vancouver for a while. He has to be signed, he can’t be offer sheeted. I don’t Quinn is the kind of person to completely tear down an organization just to be with his brothers. He has literally no leverage to go to NJD and just because his bros are there doesn’t mean he immediately wants to head over there ASAP. I mean look at the Staal brothers. They were on the same team but later moved onto different teams. Quinn Hughes most definitely will not be traded. The most likely scenario of him leaving is in UFA in 8-11 years


For the next four years, Quinn doesn't have leverage to whether he goes. But I believe in four more years he can be a UFA. So for now he stays. But I suggested the contract negotiations hold up may be in term, Canucks may want to it go into his UFA years, and Quinn's preferance might be to gain his UFA freedom ASAP
9 août 2021 à 22 h 22
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Quoting: theleano1
Yeah easy no and cap hell? you have Hughes signing for 6.5mill lmao if that was the price he would have been re-signed by now its an easy no don't kid yourself


It's a contract he NEVER signs in Vancouver.

Don't kid yourself.
9 août 2021 à 22 h 29
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Quoting: palhal
I think Canucks should consider the trade. I'm betting that the Hughes want to be united as soon as possible. The delay on is contract might be term if he wants out of Vancouver in four years. IMO it isn't isn't necessarily good to have three brothers on the same team. There might be a tenacity to worry about themselves instead of the team.


Since the possibility exists, why not right?

Smith has some serious game, and far more well rounded a player than Hughes imo.

Offensive D of the likes of Quinn may not come along often, but, often their defensive game is suspect, if not non existant - we could ask Marc Methot about that

Even from a long term cap perspective, this is something Benning would have to at least entertain.
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10 août 2021 à 4 h 55
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Quoting: swinny
It's a contract he NEVER signs in Vancouver.

Don't kid yourself.


nor he does in NJ lol its not a good offer i am ty smith fan but not one for one at least next years 1st needs to be coming back too Hughes is looking at 8 years with van and wants around 8 for it like Chabot, We dont have the cap space to do 8mill for hughes or else we would have re-signed him lmao
 
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