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Building off a Vegas trade and Eichel

Créé par: Treize131
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2021
Publié: 8 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Saw the Vegas trade in another ACGM and it was certainly one I could live with and the Eichel trade is one that I'm gradually less interested in as time goes on. Buffalo is letting this drag on far too long and is rapidly losing leverage given it's already August which means any team trading for Eichel will likely not see him on the roster until mid-season, at the earliest.

If the Flames decide to back out completely on Eichel then the Monahan trade doesn't need to happen. Though we can certainly still move him to continue to make changes to the core.
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CGY
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Stephenson, Chandler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
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  1. Eichel, Jack (1 100 000 $ retained)
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  1. Dubé, Dillon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. Välimäki, Juuso [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
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Given Eichel's medical status the pick can either be a guaranteed 1st pick with retained salary or a conditional 2nd where it becomes a 1st if Eichel plays at least 41 games and the Flames make the playoffs.
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8 août 2021 à 13 h 18
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Vegas doesn’t touch that trade.
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8 août 2021 à 13 h 23
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Vegas doesn’t touch that trade.


Doubt they trade Stephenson straight up for Monahan at this point...
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8 août 2021 à 13 h 26
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Both teams decline fast. If Vegas won't trade Krebs for Eichel why would they trade him for... Monahan? And getting Eichel for a bunch of scraps isn't gonna happen either.
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8 août 2021 à 13 h 42
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Holy ****. I'm sick of these horrible offers with buffalo retaining money for five years
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8 août 2021 à 13 h 46
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Holy ****. I'm sick of these horrible offers with buffalo retaining money for five years


I don’t see why they wouldn’t . Unless they take back a massive contract . They won’t be competitive for at least 3-4 years
8 août 2021 à 14 h 1
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I don’t see why they wouldn’t . Unless they take back a massive contract . They won’t be competitive for at least 3-4 years


Because you don't retain money on a player of jack eichels caliber. Especially with 5 years left.

Teams can go out and sign "danault" for 5.5 million for 6 years if eichel is an issue at 10.
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8 août 2021 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Holy ****. I'm sick of these horrible offers with buffalo retaining money for five years


Plus another left handed d to play with dahlin, power, samuelsson, Bryson, Ryan Johnson, hagg, and butcher. Can never have enough, that's what I always say.
8 août 2021 à 15 h 18
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I don’t see why they wouldn’t . Unless they take back a massive contract . They won’t be competitive for at least 3-4 years


Retaining could be fine, but it’s gotta be reasonable and for the right package.. guys that don’t need to get paid for 4 years. Plus is it just me, or did Monahan get more then Eichel here? Like that’s incredibly terrible.
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8 août 2021 à 15 h 29
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When the trade has a note starting with something along the lines of "Judging by Eichel's medical status," you know it's going to be absolutely awful
8 août 2021 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
Because you don't retain money on a player of jack eichels caliber. Especially with 5 years left.

Teams can go out and sign "danault" for 5.5 million for 6 years if eichel is an issue at 10.


I think retention is possible simply for the reason it expands your list. With the flat cap it’s not an issue of teams not wanting jack at 10 it’s that it’s increasingly difficult for any team that is willing to give up the amount of assets. Typically a rebuilding team with the cap space won’t want to give up the assets. Is refusing to pick up 2-3/yr for five years when you don’t need the cap room really worth it if it gets you everything you want?
8 août 2021 à 16 h 47
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I think retention is possible simply for the reason it expands your list. With the flat cap it’s not an issue of teams not wanting jack at 10 it’s that it’s increasingly difficult for any team that is willing to give up the amount of assets. Typically a rebuilding team with the cap space won’t want to give up the assets. Is refusing to pick up 2-3/yr for five years when you don’t need the cap room really worth it if it gets you everything you want?


No. Its not possible. It's not happening. Stop acting like this is a bad contract.
8 août 2021 à 17 h 5
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Doubt they trade Stephenson straight up for Monahan at this point...


Bingo. This is BAD.
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8 août 2021 à 17 h 28
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No. Its not possible. It's not happening. Stop acting like this is a bad contract.


It’s not a bad contract…but it’s difficult to move to the proper buyer in a flat cap era. Especially after free agency. By refusing any retention. You have limited to probably 3 teams, if you retained 3 you probably expand that to 20. Which way are you likely to get the most assets?
9 août 2021 à 0 h 2
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It’s not a bad contract…but it’s difficult to move to the proper buyer in a flat cap era. Especially after free agency. By refusing any retention. You have limited to probably 3 teams, if you retained 3 you probably expand that to 20. Which way are you likely to get the most assets?


No it's not. Zero retention, and that will be 1000 percent a sticking point in a deal for eichel, with a cheap the sabres are going this year.
9 août 2021 à 0 h 11
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No it's not. Zero retention, and that will be 1000 percent a sticking point in a deal for eichel, with a cheap the sabres are going this year.

Then they’re doing their fans and franchise a disservice if it’s not allowing them the best deal
 
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