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Trading Kessel to Vegas and taking Komarov and Hickey from the Islanders

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Équipe: 2021-22 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2021
Publié: 7 août 2021
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  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. Komarov, Leo
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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Same trade as the one for Anton Stralman.

This is what a fair dumping of Hickey and Komarov looks like.
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  1. Kessel, Phil (3 400 000 $ retained)
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7 août 2021 à 19 h 37
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Yea, about as easy of a no from the Isles as there could be.
7 août 2021 à 19 h 38
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We don’t have to get rid of hickey or komorov and even if we did we ain’t doing it for those prices
7 août 2021 à 19 h 39
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If Vegas didn’t want to give Krebs for Eichel why do you think they would do it for Kessel?
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7 août 2021 à 19 h 42
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Why would Vegas do that? And the isles can just leave Komorov and Hickey in the AHL for one more year and they’ll be fine
7 août 2021 à 19 h 46
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Why would Vegas do that? And the isles can just leave Komorov and Hickey in the AHL for one more year and they’ll be fine


Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.



As for the Isles, that's exactly the point I tried to make about Komorov and Hickey in some other post.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2700131

But nobody would listen :/
7 août 2021 à 19 h 47
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If Vegas didn’t want to give Krebs for Eichel why do you think they would do it for Kessel?


To dump Dadonov and make an upgrade for another run at the cup.

Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.
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7 août 2021 à 19 h 48
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We don’t have to get rid of hickey or komorov and even if we did we ain’t doing it for those prices


I don't think you have to get rid of Hickey or Komorov either.

But some other Islanders fans think otherwise.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2700131
7 août 2021 à 19 h 49
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If Vegas is reluctant to give up Krebs for Eichel why the hell would they for 1 year of Kessel?
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Yea, about as easy of a no from the Isles as there could be.


Having Hickey and Komarov dumped on Ottawa for a low 2nd is about an easy of a no from the Sens as there could be.

Some people think otherwise :/

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2700131
7 août 2021 à 19 h 50
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If Vegas is reluctant to give up Krebs for Eichel why the hell would they for 1 year of Kessel?


To dump Dadonov and make an upgrade for another run at the cup.

Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.
7 août 2021 à 19 h 52
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I don't think you have to get rid of Hickey or Komorov either.

But some other Islanders fans think otherwise.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2700131

Okay take it up with him then. What’s that gotta due with anything?
7 août 2021 à 19 h 54
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To dump Dadonov and make an upgrade for another run at the cup.

Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.


And why would they want to dump Dadonov when they literally paid to get him like not even a month ago?
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7 août 2021 à 19 h 56
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Okay take it up with him then. What’s that gotta due with anything?


I did take it up with them.

It's obvious you didn't read my commentary.


In this post, Islanders are dumping Komarov and Hickey at the same price as when Florida dumped Stralman.

There's your answer.

Read my posts more closely before commenting :/
7 août 2021 à 19 h 57
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And why would they want to dump Dadonov when they literally paid to get him like not even a month ago?


To get Kessel and win the Stanley Cup someday?
7 août 2021 à 19 h 58
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yeah we've already had this fight in another thread but even if you were right (which you're not) bolduc is worth more than a 2nd now. Its a pretty easy decline e for the isles.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 0
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yeah we've already had this fight in another thread but even if you were right (which you're not) bolduc is worth more than a 2nd now. Its a pretty easy decline e for the isles.


And it's a pretty easy decline from the Sens for dumping Komarov and Hickey for a low 2nd.

Make sure to tell your "friend" from the other thread.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 3
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And it's a pretty easy decline from the Sens for dumping Komarov and Hickey for a low 2nd.

Make sure to tell your "friend" from the other thread.


What "friend" are you talking about? You sure you're ok there bud? Either way we have a difference of opinion and I guess we'll see in due time, or not.
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7 août 2021 à 20 h 8
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To dump Dadonov and make an upgrade for another run at the cup.

Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.


Dadonov got Holden and a 3rd. He’s not a cap dump.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 8
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What "friend" are you talking about? You sure you're ok there bud? Either way we have a difference of opinion and I guess we'll see in due time, or not.


Linehan10.

You sure you're ok?

Either way, the Islanders will ride out the Hickey/Komarov contracts and this whole conversation will be moot.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 8
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Quoting: sensonfire
I did take it up with them.

It's obvious you didn't read my commentary.


In this post, Islanders are dumping Komarov and Hickey at the same price as when Florida dumped Stralman.

There's your answer.

Read my posts more closely before commenting :/


Same price they dumped stralman? You are comparing apples to oranges my friend. You want us to give up our top d prospect and another 2nd rounder? In the stralman trade arizona got a second rounder three years from now. They won’t even see him until at least 6-7 years from now.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 9
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Lol trading Krebs for one year of 33 year old Phil Kessel would be such a massive mistake for Vegas
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7 août 2021 à 20 h 9
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Dadonov got Holden and a 3rd. He’s not a cap dump.


It was a bad trade for Vegas that everybody thought Ottawa won cleanly.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/495251
7 août 2021 à 20 h 10
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Lol trading Krebs for one year of 33 year old Phil Kessel would be such a massive mistake for Vegas


Krebs can not win the cup for Vegas this year.

Kessel can.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 13
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Same price they dumped stralman? You are comparing apples to oranges my friend. You want us to give up our top d prospect and another 2nd rounder? In the stralman trade arizona got a second rounder three years from now. They won’t even see him until at least 6-7 years from now.


I don't pay attention to the Islanders prospects compared to some other teams.

Whoever is the Islanders equivalent to Vladislav Kolyachonok would serve the same purpose for dumping Hickey and Komarov.
7 août 2021 à 20 h 15
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Kessel is a cup champion and a top 6 goal scorer.

Dadonov is a cap dump.


If Dadonov is a cap dump, then why did Vegas just trade a pick to get him?
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