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Montreal in the mix

Créé par: Canuckel_head
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2021
Publié: 5 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
2825 000 $
2750 000 $
32 750 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $68 943 810 $597 561 $1 475 000 $12 556 190 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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880 833 $880 833 $
G
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5

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5 août 2021 à 15 h 43
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I Don't understand the obsession with eichel. Why give up the future for 1 player
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5 août 2021 à 16 h 7
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I Don't understand the obsession with eichel. Why give up the future for 1 player


I mean, you’re giving up assets that you likely are hoping will even sniff the level of play Eichel is at. In almost every single Eichel trade, he will be the best player. He’s a bonafide 1C in the league and when he’s on his game he’s a top 10 center.

Say the habs give up KK, Romanov and 2 1sts or something lien that. KK won’t be as good as Eichel ever, Romanov while likely becoming a really good top 4 dman won’t have the impact Eichel has. Then you’re hoping your two 1sts are late, and likely won’t come anywhere close to Eichel. You’re essentially giving up the equivalent of 4 1sts for Eichel, and the pieces you give up will never touch what Eichel does.

That’s why Buffalo is so firm on their price because they lose any Eichel trade they do. Eichel will be the best player in the trade. Unless somehow they get a kings ransom and get a prospect like Byfield, Lafreniere, Beniers or something along those lines.
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5 août 2021 à 16 h 17
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This package doesn't even get you Eichel's jockstrap
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Quoting: tsyls
I mean, you’re giving up assets that you likely are hoping will even sniff the level of play Eichel is at. In almost every single Eichel trade, he will be the best player. He’s a bonafide 1C in the league and when he’s on his game he’s a top 10 center.

Say the habs give up KK, Romanov and 2 1sts or something lien that. KK won’t be as good as Eichel ever, Romanov while likely becoming a really good top 4 dman won’t have the impact Eichel has. Then you’re hoping your two 1sts are late, and likely won’t come anywhere close to Eichel. You’re essentially giving up the equivalent of 4 1sts for Eichel, and the pieces you give up will never touch what Eichel does.

That’s why Buffalo is so firm on their price because they lose any Eichel trade they do. Eichel will be the best player in the trade. Unless somehow they get a kings ransom and get a prospect like Byfield, Lafreniere, Beniers or something along those lines.


Right, but IMO Suzuki is our #1 KK is our #2 and Romanov is our Corner Stone For LHD with Guhle eventually. The need for an Eichel type player is there for Montreal but his contract ties up Montreal with way to much money past the next 2-3 years when they will need to sign the young guys. To me the price isn't the problem in an eichel trade its just I see this team being able to grow around the kids they got now better then they would to build around just eichel and smaller pieces.

Eichel at 8.5 Would be amazing but McDavid Exists and he's worth his contract but that makes people think they deserve more because of it and now players like Tavares are aging while making 11 Million. They need criteria for players to earn over 10 mil cause some players earn way too much
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Right, but IMO Suzuki is our #1 KK is our #2 and Romanov is our Corner Stone For LHD with Guhle eventually. The need for an Eichel type player is there for Montreal but his contract ties up Montreal with way to much money past the next 2-3 years when they will need to sign the young guys. To me the price isn't the problem in an eichel trade its just I see this team being able to grow around the kids they got now better then they would to build around just eichel and smaller pieces.

Eichel at 8.5 Would be amazing but McDavid Exists and he's worth his contract but that makes people think they deserve more because of it and now players like Tavares are aging while making 11 Million. They need criteria for players to earn over 10 mil cause some players earn way too much


I was just using the MTL trade as an example as to why a team would pay the asking price. I do agree Eichel isn’t the right option for MTL. But there is rational behind the idea of paying buffalos asking price.

The whole contract market is broken right now. Way too many big contracts in a flat cap world (I know it will go up a mill after this year). It’s just insane that someone like Werenski gets 9.58, Jones gets 9.5, Nurse gets 9. None of those contracts are good, and will probably age poorly, all except maybe Werenski as he’s younger and less term.

It’s just insane to me how much teams are paying some guys.
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5 août 2021 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: HabsRSus
Right, but IMO Suzuki is our #1 KK is our #2 and Romanov is our Corner Stone For LHD with Guhle eventually. The need for an Eichel type player is there for Montreal but his contract ties up Montreal with way to much money past the next 2-3 years when they will need to sign the young guys. To me the price isn't the problem in an eichel trade its just I see this team being able to grow around the kids they got now better then they would to build around just eichel and smaller pieces.

Eichel at 8.5 Would be amazing but McDavid Exists and he's worth his contract but that makes people think they deserve more because of it and now players like Tavares are aging while making 11 Million. They need criteria for players to earn over 10 mil cause some players earn way too much


I mean, agreed that players make too much, then you look at the NBA and your brain explodes. Lowry just signed a deal to make 30mil a year. Ridiculous. McDavid is likely worth more. I mean, is Marner really worth almost 11mil? NOPE. Point contract price is probably really accurate. I see a lot more players getting big money without looking at the team dynamic and impacts on getting a Stanley Cup. I think McDavid is worth his contract, but it holds the Oilers back from having a more rounded team (...also the location and especially management impact that too).
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I mean, agreed that players make too much, then you look at the NBA and your brain explodes. Lowry just signed a deal to make 30mil a year. Ridiculous. McDavid is likely worth more. I mean, is Marner really worth almost 11mil? NOPE. Point contract price is probably really accurate. I see a lot more players getting big money without looking at the team dynamic and impacts on getting a Stanley Cup. I think McDavid is worth his contract, but it holds the Oilers back from having a more rounded team (...also the location and especially management impact that too).


It makes some sense in other sports, as one player can have a much larger impact. That's just not the case in hockey. If you have a $20M player, your team will likely be worse, not better.

The $10M range should be reserved for a handful of players and 3rd/4th liners should not be getting long term deals for $4M, yet GMs hand them out like candy, and they are kind of forced to because another dummy will pay if you won't.
So instead of deals that make sense for the team and ther player, the team is expected to swallow some bad deals for short term gain.

I'd rather see a lower cap and lower prices for fans than see borderline "top line" players making almost as much as the best players in the league.
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