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Tyson Jost

Créé par: MrDinkiee
Date de création initiale: aoû 5, 2021
Publié: 5 aoû à 9 h 18
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Jost, Tyson
COL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Mikheyev, Ilya
  3. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
Enfoui
  • Pierre Engvall: 125 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2024
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $80 809 783 $0 $400 000 $690 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Ritchie, Nick
2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Kase, Ondrej
1 250 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
COL
Jost, Tyson
2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2

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5 aoû à 9 h 19
#1
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Why would the avs do that?
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5 aoû à 9 h 42
#2
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Modifié 5 aoû à 9 h 50
If you think that Jost is worth a first round pick, especially in a draft that is this good… you are absolutely wrong.
5 aoû à 10 h 03
#3
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Quoting: mitchmarner16
Why would the avs do that?


Did I read you right?......I am sure you meant Dubas or Leafs instead of Avs.
5 aoû à 10 h 18
#4
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Tyson Jost isnt good, not worth a 1st straight up let alone the rest
5 aoû à 10 h 28
#5
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Quoting: mitchmarner16
Why would the avs do that?


Why wouldn't they, a 30 point winger for a 1st, a 30 point winger and a very good depth defenceman? That's a massive overpay.
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5 aoû à 10 h 29
#6
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Tyson Jost isnt good, not worth a 1st straight up let alone the rest


Tyson Jost is a respectable player, very good defensively, Strong PK, and when he moved to 3C he was at a 0.5ppg pace last season. SO go off, clealry you dont know anything about the player just look up hockeydb stats only

Hes not worth a first but no one wants to take on Mikheyev and Dermotts conracts either with the cap tight for teams so you have to pay to get rid of cap space for a young 3C
5 aoû à 10 h 31
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Quoting: coga16
Tyson Jost is a respectable player, very good defensively, Strong PK, and when he moved to 3C he was at a 0.5ppg pace last season. SO go off, clealry you dont know anything about the player just look up hockeydb stats only

Hes not worth a first but no one wants to take on Mikheyev and Dermotts conracts either with the cap tight for teams so you have to pay to get rid of cap space for a young 3C


How can you say that no one would want to take on Mikheyev and Dermotts contracts.....when almost every GM in the NHL would be lining up to take on these two young players at reasonable contracts.
5 aoû à 10 h 33
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Quoting: TML_Tika
How can you say that no one would want to take on Mikheyev and Dermotts contracts.....when almost every GM in the NHL would be lining up to take on these two young players at reasonable contracts.


are teams lining up to take on 1.5 and 1.6m contracts right now ? Why pay assets for them. If they are moveable and leafs were trying to move them they would be gone by now.
They are not bad buy they arent desirable when they can be replaced by guys on ELCs over them. Cap is a premium.
5 aoû à 10 h 35
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Quoting: coga16
are teams lining up to take on 1.5 and 1.6m contracts right now ? Why pay assets for them. If they are moveable and leafs were trying to move them they would be gone by now.
They are not bad buy they arent desirable when they can be replaced by guys on ELCs over them. Cap is a premium.


You are way off the mark....if you think these 2 players are equivalent to ELCs players....I also have some swamp land forsale if you are interested as well.
5 aoû à 10 h 36
#10
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That would not be smart for the leafs, Jost is not worth that
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5 aoû à 10 h 37
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Quoting: TML_Tika
You are way off the mark....if you think these 2 players are equivalent to ELCs players....I also have some swamp land forsale if you are interested as well.


Would I play Newhook on his ELC (and another player as well liek Kaut) for the same cost as Mikheyev in the line up. yeah 2 ELCs players for the price of him.
Byram at half the cost on his ELC than Dermott....yeah I would again take the ELC player.
5 aoû à 10 h 41
#12
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It's an overpayment by TML but I don't see why either side does it. It would be inconvenient to have to find a new 3C for the Avs buy maybe they'd flip the 1st.

Mikheyev would be a solid enough fit on the 3rd line but Dermott would only play if there were injuries. $1.5m is a lot for a 7D on a cap team.
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5 aoû à 10 h 45
#13
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Quoting: coga16
Tyson Jost is a respectable player, very good defensively, Strong PK, and when he moved to 3C he was at a 0.5ppg pace last season. SO go off, clealry you dont know anything about the player just look up hockeydb stats only

Hes not worth a first but no one wants to take on Mikheyev and Dermotts conracts either with the cap tight for teams so you have to pay to get rid of cap space for a young 3C


If jost is a young 3c than Mikheyev is a young 3w an dermott a young 4d, and they're cheaper so by your logic the leafs should get 2 firsts from Colorado back
5 aoû à 10 h 47
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
If jost is a young 3c than Mikheyev is a young 3w an dermott a young 4d, and they're cheaper so by your logic the leafs should get 2 firsts from Colorado back


3.1m in cap hits vs 2m....do the math again in terms of "cheaper"...Also Jost just turned 23....Mikheyev is 27 when the season starts, Dermott is 25 during the start of the season.
So again do the age math
5 aoû à 10 h 58
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Quoting: coga16
3.1m in cap hits vs 2m....do the math again in terms of "cheaper"...Also Jost just turned 23....Mikheyev is 27 when the season starts, Dermott is 25 during the start of the season.
So again do the age math


Each player is cheaper than Jost is, therefore they are cheaper.
And the entire point was that jost is not a good young 3c and he is not worth a 1st let alone two players who are on his level of value at worst.
You are hilariously over paying for a player who isnt very good
5 aoû à 10 h 59
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Each player is cheaper than Jost is, therefore they are cheaper.
And the entire point was that jost is not a good young 3c and he is not worth a 1st let alone two players who are on his level of value at worst.
You are hilariously over paying for a player who isnt very good


its a package deal.
Again please actually read when I said before commenting
5 aoû à 11 h 17
#17
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Quoting: coga16
its a package deal.
Again please actually read when I said before commenting


I suggest you read the comments before replying. The leafs give up two assets that are individually worth as much as jost and an additional one that is worth more.
Your trade is hilariously lopsided for the aves
5 aoû à 11 h 28
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
I suggest you read the comments before replying. The leafs give up two assets that are individually worth as much as jost and an additional one that is worth more.
Your trade is hilariously lopsided for the aves


Its not my trade....seriously do you have reading comprehension issues
5 aoû à 12 h 22
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Quoting: coga16
Its not my trade....seriously do you have reading comprehension issues


or I just dont care enough to look up at the agm name vs the person defending the terrible trade like it is their own. the trade sucks, it's bad for the leafs. Full stop
5 aoû à 13 h 11
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
or I just dont care enough to look up at the agm name vs the person defending the terrible trade like it is their own. the trade sucks, it's bad for the leafs. Full stop


again reading comprehension issues...I said from the first post that jost doesnt get a 1st round pick in a return. And I didnt once advocate it was good trade.
Seriously process the posts before you start ranting about them....just breath dude, read things through before jumping off the deep end
5 aoû à 13 h 14
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Quoting: coga16
again reading comprehension issues...I said from the first post that jost doesnt get a 1st round pick in a return. And I didnt once advocate it was good trade.
Seriously process the posts before you start ranting about them....just breath dude, read things through before jumping off the deep end


dude, you couldnt even sus out that i was pointing out that each player had a lower cap hit than jost, get over yourself.
5 aoû à 13 h 22
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
dude, you couldnt even sus out that i was pointing out that each player had a lower cap hit than jost, get over yourself.


once again....reading comprehension issues. I never said Jost had a lower cap hit then the individuals, are you having an argument with yourself bc you are making up things that I never once posted.

Have a good day man, no point continuing to post here bc you really need to calm down and process the conversations first
5 aoû à 13 h 43
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Quoting: coga16
once again....reading comprehension issues. I never said Jost had a lower cap hit then the individuals, are you having an argument with yourself bc you are making up things that I never once posted.

Have a good day man, no point continuing to post here bc you really need to calm down and process the conversations first


yes, you did have reading comprehension issues when i stated that the players were individually cheaper and you talked about them being more expensive together. That is my point.
It seems to be a very big struggle for you to realise this since you just keep repeating the words reading comprehension over and over again.
 
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