Well McDonagh doesn't waive to leave his two time Cup winning team.

TB losses the better defenseman forward and pick so HTF does this help them three peat?

Yeah I’ve got no clue what this is trying to accomplish.

I'd really love a rational explanation as to why TB does that trade?

Crap I hit the wrong button and accidentally reported your message...sorry.

What I meant to do was comment that I am not saying that this is a fair trade, however offensively Joseph and ZAR are even. But if you talk with the analytics people ZAR is a defensive gem. McDonagh is definitely the better offensive D-man, but Dumo is comparable defensively and is 2 years younger. The reaso TB is giving up a slightly higher value is because they are buying about $2M in cap space. With that being said, as a Pens fan, I don't make this trade. Upgrading on Dumo while slightly downgrading on ZAR does not upgrade the team enough to be able to take on the extra cap, plus they would have to move out another league minimum contract to even make it work.

Over value ZAR I'll definitely rather Joseph no offense. And in 3years Mac is Seabrook. No big deal they'll read the comment and realize that

That's fine, we can agree that we don't want this trade and that it won't happen. However, what stats, numbers, proof, eye test, whatever, makes Joseph better than ZAR? I am not even a big ZAR proponent.

More goal in less TOI and the eye test I'll give maybe it's I see a lot more of Joseph

Yes...he has a grand total of 2 more goals than ZAR...in 2 more games played then him. Yes ZAR has more ice time, but I would venture to guess that a good chunk of ZAR's ice time is on the PK and also being on the BART line he was primarily starting his shifts in the D-zone, usually against one of the other teams top 2 lines. Oh and I forgot to mention, ZAR gets no PP time at all, not that Joseph sees a lot, but its still more than Zach.