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Trading Hughes might be our last option

Créé par: CEO
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 4 août 2021
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To keep the core inta t a few years down the road,we replace Hughes with Ty Smith, whose an ELC for 2 more years, and lose Myers. Allows us to extend Boeser no problem and might help with Miller and Horvat's extension
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4 août 2021 à 20 h 4
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Quoting: JokiStan
Why would NJ trade that much for Quinn "43% xGF" Hughes? I don't see it, no him being related to Jack and Luke is not an acceptable answer lol


Well I mean they drafted Luke despite players like Eklund, Guenther, Clarke all still on the draft board. It’s a lose lose deal. Canucks don’t need to trade away Hughes
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5 août 2021 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: CEO
Ideally, sure. But I don't think we get it. If dumping Myers is a priority, then definitely no. If not, then Smith and Holtz for Hughes might be all we get. I think you have your Hope's too high if he does get traded


We aren't trading Hughes in a Myers cap dump. If NJ wants Hughes they will need to pony up and it will be expensive. There is absolutely no reason for Vancouver to trade him, unless NJ blows the doors off.
5 août 2021 à 15 h 20
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Quoting: Boldirev
We aren't trading Hughes in a Myers cap dump. If NJ wants Hughes they will need to pony up and it will be expensive. There is absolutely no reason for Vancouver to trade him, unless NJ blows the doors off.


Quoting: Juiceman
Well I mean they drafted Luke despite players like Eklund, Guenther, Clarke all still on the draft board. It’s a lose lose deal. Canucks don’t need to trade away Hughes


Quoting: TheAlien
Canucks don't have any reason to move Hughes either which is why I said it has to be an overpayment to even consider it


Quoting: Juiceman
Hughes isn’t getting traded. Boeser gets like 7.5 which is fair. Bo most likely takes a team friendly deal for arohnd 6 because he is shown to be a real team player. Miller also probably takes in the 6 mil range. That’s only like an extra 2 million spent on those two players. Luongos recapture penalty is gone next season which covers for the buyouts. Canucks are fine for right now and trading their top defenceman is the exact opposite of what they should do….



Yes, Hughes has one of the best hands in the NHL
Yes, Hughes is one of the best offensive defensemen in the league
Yes, Quinn Hughes is the best Powerplay Quarterback in the NHL, aside from maybe Fox and Makar.
But he sucks at defense. Rathbone will be great enough for PP1. A Hughes trade will bring back Ty Smith, plus several other assets. Smith can take PP1 and Rathbone can take PP2. This is an above average PP defense. The assets might include other prospects like Walsh Rielly or a first round pick. All these will be more helpful for us long term than Hughes. Hughes might get close to 8 Million × 7 or 8 years this year. The Canucks can't take a huge contract like that. Smith is an ELC for 2 more years, and likely won't demand that much. A Hughes trade might be more beneficial to the Canucks than the Devils, but that doesn't reduce his value. He can fetch a loot box like Erik Karlsson did.
5 août 2021 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: CEO
Yes, Hughes has one of the best hands in the NHL
Yes, Hughes is one of the best offensive defensemen in the league
Yes, Quinn Hughes is the best Powerplay Quarterback in the NHL, aside from maybe Fox and Makar.
But he sucks at defense. Rathbone will be great enough for PP1. A Hughes trade will bring back Ty Smith, plus several other assets. Smith can take PP1 and Rathbone can take PP2. This is an above average PP defense. The assets might include other prospects like Walsh Rielly or a first round pick. All these will be more helpful for us long term than Hughes. Hughes might get close to 8 Million × 7 or 8 years this year. The Canucks can't take a huge contract like that. Smith is an ELC for 2 more years, and likely won't demand that much. A Hughes trade might be more beneficial to the Canucks than the Devils, but that doesn't reduce his value. He can fetch a loot box like Erik Karlsson did.


You can teach good defensive play. You can’t teach offensive talent. Hughes is fine where he is. Ty Smith is very good but there really isn’t a need to do this.
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5 août 2021 à 17 h 42
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Yes, Hughes has one of the best hands in the NHL
Yes, Hughes is one of the best offensive defensemen in the league
Yes, Quinn Hughes is the best Powerplay Quarterback in the NHL, aside from maybe Fox and Makar.
But he sucks at defense. Rathbone will be great enough for PP1. A Hughes trade will bring back Ty Smith, plus several other assets. Smith can take PP1 and Rathbone can take PP2. This is an above average PP defense. The assets might include other prospects like Walsh Rielly or a first round pick. All these will be more helpful for us long term than Hughes. Hughes might get close to 8 Million × 7 or 8 years this year. The Canucks can't take a huge contract like that. Smith is an ELC for 2 more years, and likely won't demand that much. A Hughes trade might be more beneficial to the Canucks than the Devils, but that doesn't reduce his value. He can fetch a loot box like Erik Karlsson did.


QH has basically played in parts of 2 COVID shortened seasons as well as being thrust into topline minutes on a defensively inept team and you come up with this "definitive" assessment of his abilities based on that?? As with ALL young talented offensive d-men, the defensive part of the game takes a while to develop. His skill and IQ will absolutely translate to much better defensive play in the future and the Canucks will happily pay to keep him on their blue line. If he gets traded it will be for a kings ransom because unlike you, hockey GM's appreciate the kind of player he is and will be.
 
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