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Trading Hughes might be our last option

Créé par: CEO
Date de création initiale: aoû 3, 2021
Publié: 4 aoû à 15 h 37
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
To keep the core inta t a few years down the road,we replace Hughes with Ty Smith, whose an ELC for 2 more years, and lose Myers. Allows us to extend Boeser no problem and might help with Miller and Horvat's extension
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Elias47 500 000 $
Juolevi, Olli1925 000 $
Dickinson, Jason32 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Smith, Ty
  2. Subban, P.K. (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Walsh, Reilly
  4. 2022 2e round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. MacEwen, Zack
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
VAN
NJD
WPG
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2023
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2024
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2881 500 000 $78 841 492 $648 780 $3 882 500 $2 658 508 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
7 500 000 $
C
RFA - 3
VAN
Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Garland, Conor
4 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
VAN
Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
VAN
Dickinson, Jason
2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
VAN
Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Motte, Tyler
1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
VAN
Sutter, Brandon
1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
VAN
Highmore, Matthew
725 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
VAN
Dowling, Justin
750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
VAN
Bailey, Justin
750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NJD
Smith, Ty
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
VAN
Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
VAN
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
VAN
Poolman, Tucker
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
VAN
Halák, Jaroslav
1 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
VAN
Rathbone, Jack
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
VAN
Schenn, Luke
850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
VAN
Juolevi, Olli
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
NJD
Subban, P.K.
7 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
VAN
Hunt, Brad
800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
NJD
Walsh, Reilly
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
VAN
Lockwood, William
842 500 $
AD
RFA - 1
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2

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4 aoû à 15 h 39
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If we trade Hughes to NJ it starts with Smith, Holtz, and a 1st anything less and the Canucks hang up immediately
4 aoû à 15 h 45
#2
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Quoting: TheAlien
If we trade Hughes to NJ it starts with Smith, Holtz, and a 1st anything less and the Canucks hang up immediately


Ideally, sure. But I don't think we get it. If dumping Myers is a priority, then definitely no. If not, then Smith and Holtz for Hughes might be all we get. I think you have your Hope's too high if he does get traded
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4 aoû à 15 h 47
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Quoting: CEO
Ideally, sure. But I don't think we get it. If dumping Myers is a priority, then definitely no. If not, then Smith and Holtz for Hughes might be all we get. I think you have your Hope's too high if he does get traded


He's not getting traded lol which is why it has to be an overpayment and you don't trade your number one dman just to move Myers that's a terrible idea
4 aoû à 15 h 49
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Modifié 4 aoû à 16 h 01
Quoting: TheAlien
If we trade Hughes to NJ it starts with Smith, Holtz, and a 1st anything less and the Canucks hang up immediately


And then the Devils hang up after Smith, Holtz AND... The Devils are fine with Smith. They shouldn't blow it on Quinn just bc he's the third brother. If he wants to come to NJD one day, he can come as a free agent. If Jack or Luke wasn't on the team, no one would even be considering this. That is unlike the idea of drafting Luke where it was not beyond any expectations that's the area Luke would go for many teams.
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4 aoû à 15 h 49
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Hughes isn’t getting traded. Boeser gets like 7.5 which is fair. Bo most likely takes a team friendly deal for arohnd 6 because he is shown to be a real team player. Miller also probably takes in the 6 mil range. That’s only like an extra 2 million spent on those two players. Luongos recapture penalty is gone next season which covers for the buyouts. Canucks are fine for right now and trading their top defenceman is the exact opposite of what they should do….
4 aoû à 15 h 49
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Quoting: TheAlien
He's not getting traded lol which is why it has to be an overpayment and you don't trade your number one dman just to move Myers that's a terrible idea


I think it's a real possibility at this point. Myers dump + MacEwan and we should still get Smith and a first back. We will have to move him sooner or later
4 aoû à 15 h 55
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There is no chance that the Canucks would trade Hughes.....who reminds me of Bobby Orr the way he plays.......this is total nonsense.
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4 aoû à 16 h 01
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Quoting: TheAlien
If we trade Hughes to NJ it starts with Smith, Holtz, and a 1st anything less and the Canucks hang up immediately


And why would the Devils do that?
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4 aoû à 16 h 04
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Why would NJ trade that much for Quinn "43% xGF" Hughes? I don't see it, no him being related to Jack and Luke is not an acceptable answer lol
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4 aoû à 16 h 08
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Devils pass but good job for not overvaluing Quinn Hughes. People don't realize how good and how much potential Ty Smith has. Smith is already better defensively than Quinn, which is what the Devils need opposed to another primarily offensive defensemen
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4 aoû à 16 h 13
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils pass but good job for not overvaluing Quinn Hughes. People don't realize how good and how much potential Ty Smith has. Smith is already better defensively than Quinn, which is what the Devils need opposed to another primarily offensive defensemen



He is still overvaluing him as that all comes with still having to take that awful Tyler Myers contract...
4 aoû à 16 h 15
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Quoting: RebelCoach
He is still overvaluing him as that all comes with still having to take that awful Tyler Myers contract...


I agree but it's not as bad as Smith, Holtz, and a first which is straight laughable
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4 aoû à 16 h 16
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Quoting: Devil1122
I agree but it's not as bad as Smith, Holtz, and a first which is straight laughable


Yea, now I see they changed it from before.
4 aoû à 16 h 25
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Quoting: Devil1122
Devils pass but good job for not overvaluing Quinn Hughes. People don't realize how good and how much potential Ty Smith has. Smith is already better defensively than Quinn, which is what the Devils need opposed to another primarily offensive defensemen


I'm already better defensively than Quinn.... But yes. Keep Ty Smith!
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4 aoû à 17 h 00
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Quoting: TheAlien
If we trade Hughes to NJ it starts with Smith, Holtz, and a 1st anything less and the Canucks hang up immediately


Smith, Johnsson, 2nd is more likely return.
And if adding Myers…subtract Smith.

Will be interesting to see if VAN signs Hughes to bridge deal or long-term. If he really wants to come to NJ, I’d imagine he would want 3-4 year deal.
4 aoû à 17 h 00
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
I'm already better defensively than Quinn.... But yes. Keep Ty Smith!


So you say you're better defensively than Quinn Hughes huh? How about a 4 year contract paying you $3M a year? OK OK OK OK!! Fine. 5 years at $4M a year, but that's final!!!
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4 aoû à 17 h 04
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Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
So you say you're better defensively than Quinn Hughes huh? How about a 4 year contract paying you $3M a year? OK OK OK OK!! Fine. 5 years at $4M a year, but that's final!!!


I knew I could entice you Mr. Benning.... shouldn't you be at arts and crafts right now?
4 aoû à 17 h 12
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
I knew I could entice you Mr. Benning.... shouldn't you be at arts and crafts right now?


It's milk and cookies time...I get computer access.
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4 aoû à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Devil1122
And why would the Devils do that?


Never said they would but if the Canucks trade Hughes it's gonna have to be a hell of an overpayment
4 aoû à 17 h 16
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Smith, Johnsson, 2nd is more likely return.
And if adding Myers…subtract Smith.

Will be interesting to see if VAN signs Hughes to bridge deal or long-term. If he really wants to come to NJ, I’d imagine he would want 3-4 year deal.


Based off what is being said he wants a long term deal the problem is the Canucks don't have the cap space to give both him and Pettersson a long term deal
4 aoû à 17 h 17
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Quoting: CEO
I think it's a real possibility at this point. Myers dump + MacEwan and we should still get Smith and a first back. We will have to move him sooner or later


It's not lol
4 aoû à 17 h 18
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Quoting: RebelCoach
And then the Devils hang up after Smith, Holtz AND... The Devils are fine with Smith. They shouldn't blow it on Quinn just bc he's the third brother. If he wants to come to NJD one day, he can come as a free agent. If Jack or Luke wasn't on the team, no one would even be considering this. That is unlike the idea of drafting Luke where it was not beyond any expectations that's the area Luke would go for many teams.


Canucks don't have any reason to move Hughes either which is why I said it has to be an overpayment to even consider it
4 aoû à 17 h 35
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Quoting: TheAlien
Never said they would but if the Canucks trade Hughes it's gonna have to be a hell of an overpayment


For the Devils Smith is untouchable, and the 2022 first and Holtz are close to it. Devils don't even consider this
4 aoû à 17 h 37
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Quoting: Devil1122
For the Devils Smith is untouchable, and the 2022 first and Holtz are close to it. Devils don't even consider this


If Smith is untouchable what do you think Hughes is
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4 aoû à 18 h 39
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Quoting: TheAlien
He's not getting traded lol which is why it has to be an overpayment and you don't trade your number one dman just to move Myers that's a terrible idea


That's what I said to every Canucks fan that wanted Cernak for taking Johnson. RHS defenseman anyway
 
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