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How Has This Not Happened

Créé par: Terry_AkiSauce
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 3 août 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Demers, Jason11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Drouin, Jonathan
  3. Romanov, Alexander
  4. 2022 1e round pick (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
MTL
MTL
ANA
MTL
TBL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2024
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 025 060 $597 561 $837 500 $474 940 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
MTL
Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
MTL
Paquette, Cédric
950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
6 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MTL
Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Demers, Jason
1 500 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Wideman, Chris
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
MTL
Perreault, Mathieu
950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1

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3 août 2021 à 6 h 48
#1
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Because Buf isn’t ready to trade Eichel pretty simple
3 août 2021 à 6 h 54
#2
Rejoint: juin 2021
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No clue. I'm ready. Send it.
3 août 2021 à 7 h 12
#3
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Because it's not a good offer
3 août 2021 à 7 h 14
#4
Yall gotta Chill
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Check out the interview with Dea.. Basically said Eichel could mature to be a good leader, but he ain't. Talked about how Crosby would be the first player to reach out to you when you join the Pens, and Eichel ain't one of those types of leader. Don't know what he was going for in that statement but if you read between the lines it looks like Eichel is a "Me, Myself an I" type of guy. Maybe that's what keeping a trade from happening. Buffalo wants the moon, the clubs are saying "I don't think so Tim..."

Would hope that this whole saga ends and they just take what is good for Buffalo, Habs or another team..
3 août 2021 à 7 h 14
#5
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Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Because it's not a good offer


That's literally the asking price of the Sabres
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3 août 2021 à 7 h 16
#6
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Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
Check out the interview with Dea.. Basically said Eichel could mature to be a good leader, but he ain't. Talked about how Crosby would be the first player to reach out to you when you join the Pens, and Eichel ain't one of those types of leader. Don't know what he was going for in that statement but if you read between the lines it looks like Eichel is a "Me, Myself an I" type of guy. Maybe that's what keeping a trade from happening. Buffalo wants the moon, the clubs are saying "I don't think so Tim..."

Would hope that this whole saga ends and they just take what is good for Buffalo, Habs or another team..


Why can't Eichel just be a good player? Maybe he's not a leadership guy, I doubt guys like Malkin, Kucherov, etc are seen as good leaders but I'd want them on my team
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3 août 2021 à 7 h 26
#7
Yall gotta Chill
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Why can't Eichel just be a good player? Maybe he's not a leadership guy, I doubt guys like Malkin, Kucherov, etc are seen as good leaders but I'd want them on my team


Don't know about Kucherov, but Malkin has been pointed out has being a very good leader in the room. He let's Crosby take his place, but he's there to put players in their place when they enter the team.

Eichel has the C ... If he doesn't want to be a good leader, he just needs to give it to someone who is. I'm guessing you don't know the role of a captain inside teams, once you have that letter, you better own up to it.
3 août 2021 à 7 h 35
#8
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Uh because it never will obviously
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3 août 2021 à 7 h 36
#9
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Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
Don't know about Kucherov, but Malkin has been pointed out has being a very good leader in the room. He let's Crosby take his place, but he's there to put players in their place when they enter the team.

Eichel has the C ... If he doesn't want to be a good leader, he just needs to give it to someone who is. I'm guessing you don't know the role of a captain inside teams, once you have that letter, you better own up to it.


Honestly so hard to say without being in the room. Who's to say he even wanted to be captain? Doesn't help being on the worst team since being drafted as well. Wasn't ROR a bad leader as well?
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3 août 2021 à 7 h 39
#10
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Why can't Eichel just be a good player? Maybe he's not a leadership guy, I doubt guys like Malkin, Kucherov, etc are seen as good leaders but I'd want them on my team


Kucherov are you kidding me he doesn't say much but when he does the entire team listens his work ethic is unparalleled.
3 août 2021 à 7 h 46
#11
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
That's literally the asking price of the Sabres


no buffalo is asking for 4 first rounds (value) you gave us a 1st, jesperi who is a younger mittlestadt , drouin who is strugglin. and romanov who can potentially be very helpful


total value max is 2 firsts and a 2nd rd out of this trade
3 août 2021 à 7 h 47
#12
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Kucherov are you kidding me he doesn't say much but when he does the entire team listens his work ethic is unparalleled.


Right, not a leader in the way the post I was responding to was referring to. Obviously people listen to the best players/hardest workers
3 août 2021 à 7 h 50
#13
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Quoting: Asd24
no buffalo is asking for 4 first rounds (value) you gave us a 1st, jesperi who is a younger mittlestadt , drouin who is strugglin. and romanov who can potentially be very helpful


total value max is 2 firsts and a 2nd rd out of this trade


Two 3rd overall picks, a first round pick and a young, promising defenseman
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3 août 2021 à 8 h 6
#14
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Two 3rd overall picks, a first-round pick, and a young, promising defenseman


you cant base their value on their draft position it's based on production/potential . Drouin and kk had 20pts a piece that's not 1st rd value. Romanov and the first are the keys to this having a chance.
3 août 2021 à 8 h 46
#15
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Im a Sabres fan and id take this deal in a heart beat, 3 players 26 and under and a 1st round pick? Deal
3 août 2021 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: Dmaz026
Im a Sabres fan and id take this deal in a heart beat, 3 players 26 and under and a 1st round pick? Deal


Why would you want Drouin
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3 août 2021 à 8 h 53
#17
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I don't who Montreal would have to get rid of next season to make this deal work. If Weber returns well that's overall 7m in cap spending and Suzuki might look like he deserves a big raise.
I really don't mind the trade proposed. But Drouin's 5.5m X 2 just could be a cap dump.
3 août 2021 à 8 h 54
#18
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Why would you want Drouin


Either reatain 50% of his salary for a dealine dump or, he averages 40-50 points a season and is a good winger on the Sabres for 2 years.
3 août 2021 à 9 h 7
#19
You know nothing JS
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Modifié 3 août 2021 à 11 h 23
This haven't happen because Buffalo doesn't allow teams to look into Eichel's medical records...

www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-jack-eichel-new-york-rangers-1.1671341%3ftsn-amp

They are asking the moon for a player who could never play again if his neck surgery is unsuccessfull. No one is interested to buy blindly damaged goods.
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3 août 2021 à 9 h 14
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Quoting: Dmaz026
Either reatain 50% of his salary for a dealine dump or, he averages 40-50 points a season and is a good winger on the Sabres for 2 years.


If he plays the entire season maybe . Whether or not you found his second leaving his team justifiable. The first was completely immature selfishness.
Show me a really good hustle back check by Drouin cause I've seen a lot of Drouin games in his career and don't remember one.
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3 août 2021 à 9 h 35
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Quoting: jpsnow13
This haven't happen because Buffalo doesn't allow teams to look into Eichel's medical records...

www.tsn.ca/buffalo-sabres-jack-eichel-new-york-rangers-1.1671341%3ftsn-amp

They are asking the moon for a player who could never play again if his neck surgery is unsuccessfull. No one is interested to buy bblindly damaged goods.


Larry Brooks is a twat and just a mouthpiece for the Rangers. Every thing he says should be ingested with a pound of salt. If teams gave serious offers (not implying this is or isn’t, just saying if they do) they would get access to the records. Saying that Buffalo will hide them from a team that is trading for him is ridiculous and on brand for that guy.
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3 août 2021 à 9 h 42
#22
Hockey247
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Quoting: WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame
Don't know about Kucherov, but Malkin has been pointed out has being a very good leader in the room. He let's Crosby take his place, but he's there to put players in their place when they enter the team.

Eichel has the C ... If he doesn't want to be a good leader, he just needs to give it to someone who is. I'm guessing you don't know the role of a captain inside teams, once you have that letter, you better own up to it.


crosby and malkin came into a culture with great leadership. mario was there. they were nurtured by him. who did buffalo have? god bless brain gionta, but he's not a mario type leader. eichel had no support imo. on top of that, the team has been horrible since he came in. obviously that's going to make you self centered. plus the way the team has restricted him from getting the surgery he wants, what makes you think the team hasn't restricted him from other activities off the ice in the past?
3 août 2021 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Larry Brooks is a twat and just a mouthpiece for the Rangers. Every thing he says should be ingested with a pound of salt. If teams gave serious offers (not implying this is or isn’t, just saying if they do) they would get access to the records. Saying that Buffalo will hide them from a team that is trading for him is ridiculous and on brand for that guy.


Brooks has no connections with Rangers management, hasnt in a long time.
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3 août 2021 à 9 h 44
#24
Hockey247
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Quoting: palhal
I don't who Montreal would have to get rid of next season to make this deal work. If Weber returns well that's overall 7m in cap spending and Suzuki might look like he deserves a big raise.
I really don't mind the trade proposed. But Drouin's 5.5m X 2 just could be a cap dump.


weber's not returning. it was pretty obvious after that playoff run. maybe a miracle happens, but when the gm publically says he may never play again, thats a huge thing to say. even if there was a slim chance he comes back, the gm wouldn't have said that
3 août 2021 à 9 h 46
#25
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Quoting: Hockey247
crosby and malkin came into a culture with great leadership. mario was there. they were nurtured by him. who did buffalo have? god bless brain gionta, but he's not a mario type leader. eichel had no support imo. on top of that, the team has been horrible since he came in. obviously that's going to make you self centered. plus the way the team has restricted him from getting the surgery he wants, what makes you think the team hasn't restricted him from other activities off the ice in the past?


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