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Monahan

Créé par: Ledge_And_Dairy
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 3 août 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Explications
Wanted to here Bruins fans opinions on this. Personally I think Monahan could fit well in Boston as he would play a much less relied upon role as a 2C and would probably build similar chemistry with Hall that he had with Gaudreau, and Smith is definitely an improvement on pretty much every RW he's played with but Lindholm.

Obviously Calgary would never do a trade like this without a deal lined up for Eichel or in a 3-way that sends the above package to Buffalo.

I mostly just want to here Boston fans thoughts, do you think you need another top 6 center going into this year? If not why? If so what realistic options are there and is this a package you would be willing to pay for one of Monahan's caliber?
Transactions
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BOS
  1. Monahan, Sean
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. Moore, John
  4. 2022 1e round pick (BOS)
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CGY
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2023
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2024
BOS
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 535 674 $1 956 507 $125 000 $964 326 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Hall, Taylor
6 000 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
CGY
Monahan, Sean
6 375 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Smith, Craig
3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
BOS
Foligno, Nick
3 800 000 $
AG, C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
BOS
Haula, Erik
2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
5 250 000 $
C, AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
BOS
Nosek, Tomas
1 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
BOS
Frederic, Trent
1 050 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
BOS
Wagner, Chris
1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BOS
Reilly, Mike
3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
BOS
Ullmark, Linus
5 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
925 000 $
G
RFA - 2
BOS
Forbort, Derek
3 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
BOS
Clifton, Connor
1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
Lazar, Curtis
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
725 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
725 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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3 août 2021 à 0 h 29
#1
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So this scenario
Calgary gets
Eichel
Loses
Monahan
Dube
Zary
1st
Boston gets
Monahan
Loses
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore
1st
Buffalo gets
Dube
Zary
2 1sts
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore.
This look good?
3 août 2021 à 0 h 35
#2
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Quoting: Gmonwy
So this scenario
Calgary gets
Eichel
Loses
Monahan
Dube
Zary
1st
Boston gets
Monahan
Loses
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore
1st
Buffalo gets
Dube
Zary
2 1sts
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore.
This look good?


Sure, It's literally my trade from the other day but I only got 1 response from a Bruins fan so I wanted their opinion on just what they are giving away to get Monahan
3 août 2021 à 0 h 45
#3
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I’m in.
3 août 2021 à 1 h 8
#4
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Good from Buffalo perspective.
Hell I would even retain on Monahan
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3 août 2021 à 1 h 29
#5
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Quoting: Dcochy
Good from Buffalo perspective.
Hell I would even retain on Monahan


Are you referring to my other post? i didnt put the Sabres part in this post
3 août 2021 à 1 h 44
#6
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Are you referring to my other post? i didnt put the Sabres part in this post


Sorry, this

So this scenario
Calgary gets
Eichel
Loses
Monahan
Dube
Zary
1st
Boston gets
Monahan
Loses
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore
1st
Buffalo gets
Dube
Zary
2 1sts
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore.
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3 août 2021 à 1 h 47
#7
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Quoting: Dcochy
Sorry, this

So this scenario
Calgary gets
Eichel
Loses
Monahan
Dube
Zary
1st
Boston gets
Monahan
Loses
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore
1st
Buffalo gets
Dube
Zary
2 1sts
Vakkanainen
Debrusk
Moore.


yes that was my trade from the other day https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2672949
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3 août 2021 à 7 h 50
#8
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I do it. Would like if Monahan was signed a bit longer, but 2yrs fits the Bruins current cup window. Slight concern that his P/GP has dropped for 2 years in a row, but he's only 26yr old and it could have just bad a down year last year (his previous year wasn't far off his career average). Putting him with Hall/Smith could help him bounce back, but at worst he's around a 25G/60P guy.
3 août 2021 à 7 h 57
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Quoting: ON3M4N
I do it. Would like if Monahan was signed a bit longer, but 2yrs fits the Bruins current cup window. Slight concern that his P/GP has dropped for 2 years in a row, but he's only 26yr old and it could have just bad a down year last year (his previous year wasn't far off his career average). Putting him with Hall/Smith could help him bounce back, but at worst he's around a 25G/60P guy.


Last year I get but Monahan screwed up his hip pretty early this season and never recovered until the surgery at the end of the year. Prior to the injury Monahan was pacing 63 points despite having a career low S% of ~5.5% at the time, post injury he paced around 38 points. Thats a pretty massive drop off that can clearly show the injury was a .ajor factor

Many players have also gotten the hip surgery he goand returned to form just fine after
3 août 2021 à 8 h 16
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Last year I get but Monahan screwed up his hip pretty early this season and never recovered until the surgery at the end of the year. Prior to the injury Monahan was pacing 63 points despite having a career low S% of ~5.5% at the time, post injury he paced around 38 points. Thats a pretty massive drop off that can clearly show the injury was a .ajor factor

Many players have also gotten the hip surgery he goand returned to form just fine after


That's why I said slight concer. Not enough to stop me from pulling the trigger on this if I was Sweeney
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3 août 2021 à 8 h 28
#11
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I think it’s a bit much given that monahan just had a couple down years. That said, if this is the price, i would still do it. Overpaying a smidge is far better than going into the season with what the bruins actually have.
3 août 2021 à 17 h 9
#12
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This is a good trade.
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3 août 2021 à 21 h 5
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Not a fan of a trade for any 2C Monahan included. Just putting lipstick on a pig. Look at the defense which because of the contracts and no top D prospects on the horizon is pretty well l locked in for the next three years. On a legitimate Cup contending team 4 of the top 6 would be 3rd pairing D. That's why Boston is not a legitimate Cup contender. Throw a first ++ for a 2C and then you have to throw another first ++ for a top defenseman IF one comes on the market. Don't forget about the lack of cap room on top of that making those trades really hard to execute. After signing Carlo DS had 26M in cap space. He spent 25M on 4 F, 2 D and 1 G and still managed to come out of that with no 2C or top 2D which were his biggest needs. Was really excited heading into free agency but now the charade has to stop. Let Studnicka have a legitimate 2C opportunity and move forward from there.
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3 août 2021 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Not a fan of a trade for any 2C Monahan included. Just putting lipstick on a pig. Look at the defense which because of the contracts and no top D prospects on the horizon is pretty well l locked in for the next three years. On a legitimate Cup contending team 4 of the top 6 would be 3rd pairing D. That's why Boston is not a legitimate Cup contender. Throw a first ++ for a 2C and then you have to throw another first ++ for a top defenseman IF one comes on the market. Don't forget about the lack of cap room on top of that making those trades really hard to execute. After signing Carlo DS had 26M in cap space. He spent 25M on 4 F, 2 D and 1 G and still managed to come out of that with no 2C or top 2D which were his biggest needs. Was really excited heading into free agency but now the charade has to stop. Let Studnicka have a legitimate 2C opportunity and move forward from there.


Appreciate the feedback, I get what you mean about the defense and it could be sketchy for sure, I will say that statistically Mike Reilly has been pretty good in recent years though. As a Flames fan I 100% understand where you are coming from in terms of not actually fixing team needs with the cap space you have going into an offseason. We did that for years. Only issue is management definitely doesn't see it the same way as you here, they likely think that they are still competitors with the current roster and that will probably be why this trade could never happen
 
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