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  1. Abramov, Mikhail
  2. Amirov, Rodion
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
  4. Nylander, William
  5. Rielly, Morgan
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  8. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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1 août 2021 à 21 h 49
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Add four first rounders to the buffalo deal, and two to the rangers deal.
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1 août 2021 à 21 h 50
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Add four first rounders to the buffalo deal, and two to the rangers deal.


Dude... Do you even know how NHL trades WORK?
1 août 2021 à 21 h 52
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Dude... Do you even know how NHL trades WORK?


Do you? You’ve got eichel with 5 years of retention and dahlin getting moved in the same garbage trade. That’s not a thing.
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1 août 2021 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Add four first rounders to the buffalo deal, and two to the rangers deal.


Yeah I'm not pulling a Phill Kessel for 2 Firsts and a 2nd.

That COST Toronto TYLER SEGUIN AND DOUGIE HAMILTON!

Like with the Buffalo Trade,

Nylander is a 60Pt Guy
Kerfoot SOLID 3C/LW
Reilly is a TOP and TRUE AND TRIED TOP PREMIUM 2
Defensemen in this League
Amirov was taken 15th overall in 2020

And Abrimov is projected to become a future Top 9 perhaps Top 6 Centermen

PLUS the 2nd which has REAL INSURMOUNTABLE VALUE

AND A 1RST FROM NEXT YEAR!

WHAT THE HECK ELSE DOES BUFFALO POSSIBLY WANT!?
1 août 2021 à 21 h 57
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Do you? You’ve got eichel with 5 years of retention and dahlin getting moved in the same garbage trade. That’s not a thing.


Deal with it.
1 août 2021 à 21 h 59
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Deal with it.


I don’t see why you’re getting so defensive here. Everyone will agree, of course buffalo isn’t doing that. I don’t think you should be throwing the “you don’t know how trades work rarararaara,” thing around.
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1 août 2021 à 22 h 0
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I don’t see why you’re getting so defensive here. Everyone will agree, of course buffalo isn’t doing that. I don’t think you should be throwing the “you don’t know how trades work rarararaara,” thing around.


You don't know how trades work. Deal with it.
1 août 2021 à 22 h 2
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You don't know how trades work. Deal with it.


Enlighten me smart guy. How do you they work? How is a team like the Sabres moving dahlin and eichel without getting one elite prospect back logical?
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You don't know how trades work. Deal with it.


"You don't know how trades work" - The person who literally just asked Buffalo for their franchise center and their franchise defenseman in return for a rental, a b-level prospect, a few picks of which only 1 is of any value, and 2 decent players, and then also trades our best defenseman for a player with 1 year of term to play 3C. Nice one
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1 août 2021 à 22 h 9
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Enlighten me smart guy. How do you they work? How is a team like the Sabres moving dahlin and eichel without getting one elite prospect back logical?


I went strictly by what the Buffalo Organization ACTUALLY SAID they wanted.
Also, in the NHL, there is a vert thin THIN line between a Top Prospect and an ELITE Prospect.

I would personally consider Atu Rati an ELITE prospect because best case scenario for him is becoming a 90+ player and the worst case scenario he becomes a 20+ goal, 60 pt guy for ya in your organization.

Amirov could become a potential 70+ guy at BEST a 20/20 guy at WORST.

U see?
1 août 2021 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: Nate
"You don't know how trades work" - The person who literally just asked Buffalo for their franchise center and their franchise defenseman in return for a rental, a b-level prospect, a few picks of which only 1 is of any value, and 2 decent players, and then also trades our best defenseman for a player with 1 year of term to play 3C. Nice one


Dude...

Like... Chill.

You're a noob when it comes to Hockey GM knowledge.
1 août 2021 à 22 h 14
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Dude... Do you even know how NHL trades WORK?


DO YOU???
This is laughable
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Dude...

Like... Chill.

You're a noob when it comes to Hockey GM knowledge.


Lmao I appreciate the satire, it gave me a good laugh. Just as a word of advice the mods are pretty trigger happy when it comes to handing out warnings and infraction points. I would cut down with the profanity and insults just as a heads up for the future. Cheers
1 août 2021 à 22 h 16
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Yeah I'm not pulling a Phill Kessel for 2 Firsts and a 2nd.

That COST Toronto TYLER SEGUIN AND DOUGIE HAMILTON!

Like with the Buffalo Trade,

Nylander is a 60Pt Guy
Kerfoot SOLID 3C/LW
Reilly is a TOP and TRUE AND TRIED TOP PREMIUM 2
Defensemen in this League
Amirov was taken 15th overall in 2020

And Abrimov is projected to become a future Top 9 perhaps Top 6 Centermen

PLUS the 2nd which has REAL INSURMOUNTABLE VALUE

AND A 1RST FROM NEXT YEAR!

WHAT THE HECK ELSE DOES BUFFALO POSSIBLY WANT!?


I personally want you to never post again! That’s what I would like. Can we work that into the deal?
1 août 2021 à 22 h 17
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Yeah I'm not pulling a Phill Kessel for 2 Firsts and a 2nd.

That COST Toronto TYLER SEGUIN AND DOUGIE HAMILTON!

Like with the Buffalo Trade,

Nylander is a 60Pt Guy
Kerfoot SOLID 3C/LW
Reilly is a TOP and TRUE AND TRIED TOP PREMIUM 2
Defensemen in this League
Amirov was taken 15th overall in 2020

And Abrimov is projected to become a future Top 9 perhaps Top 6 Centermen

PLUS the 2nd which has REAL INSURMOUNTABLE VALUE

AND A 1RST FROM NEXT YEAR!

WHAT THE HECK ELSE DOES BUFFALO POSSIBLY WANT!?


This isn't real lol. You are getting Eichel with retention. Dahlin who is a 1oa. And will be better than Reilly and their 14th overall pick this year.
This is the most lopsided trade I've ever seen.
I would do this trade maybe if you take out Dahlin and and Rosen
1 août 2021 à 22 h 23
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Add 9 first rounders and maybe.
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Quoting: Ed_
Yeah I'm not pulling a Phill Kessel for 2 Firsts and a 2nd.

That COST Toronto TYLER SEGUIN AND DOUGIE HAMILTON!

Like with the Buffalo Trade,

Nylander is a 60Pt Guy
Kerfoot SOLID 3C/LW
Reilly is a TOP and TRUE AND TRIED TOP PREMIUM 2
Defensemen in this League
Amirov was taken 15th overall in 2020

And Abrimov is projected to become a future Top 9 perhaps Top 6 Centermen

PLUS the 2nd which has REAL INSURMOUNTABLE VALUE

AND A 1RST FROM NEXT YEAR!

WHAT THE HECK ELSE DOES BUFFALO POSSIBLY WANT!?


You honestly got to chill… You’re getting wayyy to heated for Capfriendly. Tone it down. I said it before and I’ll say it again, if you can’t handle feedback, this is not the site for you.
2 août 2021 à 1 h 47
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Dude...

Like... Chill.

You're a noob when it comes to Hockey GM knowledge.


You literally have no right to call anyone a noob at hockey knowledge. You yourself have made bad ACGM’s after another. Just look at the comments in your post. Do you really think you have very much hockey knowledge?
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2 août 2021 à 1 h 49
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I don’t see why you’re getting so defensive here. Everyone will agree, of course buffalo isn’t doing that. I don’t think you should be throwing the “you don’t know how trades work rarararaara,” thing around.


This may be the first thing we’ve ever agreed on. This person really throwing around big words pretending they know a thing about hockey.
2 août 2021 à 14 h 14
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Quoting: Nate
Lmao I appreciate the satire, it gave me a good laugh. Just as a word of advice the mods are pretty trigger happy when it comes to handing out warnings and infraction points. I would cut down with the profanity and insults just as a heads up for the future. Cheers


Quoting: Juiceman
You literally have no right to call anyone a noob at hockey knowledge. You yourself have made bad ACGM’s after another. Just look at the comments in your post. Do you really think you have very much hockey knowledge?

Guys guys, just leave the fool be and simply report him. Thx!

Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Enlighten me smart guy. How do you they work? How is a team like the Sabres moving dahlin and eichel without getting one elite prospect back logical?
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2 août 2021 à 14 h 42
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Dude...

Like... Chill.

You're a noob when it comes to Hockey GM knowledge.


Keep it civil guys. Literally no one on here is "right". if you don't agree with someone, explain why and discuss or move on.
But yeah, you may want to dismount the high horse comments. IMHO, all these trades are lacking realism if that was your goal. Regardless of which player you think is worth this or that.

-When's the last time a 9 player trade happened between division rivals? Who cares if Nylander is this or that. The trade structure itself is so unrealistic that its a non starter anyway.

-Arizona isn't spending draft picks to add players since they're rebuilding, so there is no incentive there. They just spent the entire offseason trying to rebuild their prospect pool because they were barren of picks and prospects. Adding those two guys for picks makes ZERO sense from the point of view that they aren't trying to win now and they can fill roster spots without using draft picks.

-What the NYR are getting in return in that trade, once again aside from value of X player, doesn't even remotely fit their needs and/or profile at all. Its just a mish-mash of players put together where they take on more cap space than they're trading because......... no reason whatsoever.

But that's just my unknowledgeable opinion which is no more or less than anyone else's on this site.
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2 août 2021 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: Ed_
You don't know how trades work. Deal with it.
Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Enlighten me smart guy. How do you they work? How is a team like the Sabres moving dahlin and eichel without getting one elite prospect back logical?
Quoting: Nate
"You don't know how trades work" - The person who literally just asked Buffalo for their franchise center and their franchise defenseman in return for a rental, a b-level prospect, a few picks of which only 1 is of any value, and 2 decent players, and then also trades our best defenseman for a player with 1 year of term to play 3C. Nice one
Dahlin, Rasmus [RFA Rights] = Rielly, Morgan + 2022 2nd round pick (TOR) + 2023 3rd round pick (TOR) I think I am being generous as Dahlin has a HUGE upside, much more than the picks, plus considering the age and salary difference.
Rosén, Isak [Reserve List] >= 2023 1st round pick (TOR) a recent 14th OA for will most likely be a late pick
Eakin, Cody < Kerfoot, Alexander (Cody adds no value to the trade other than an over paid 4th line center)
Eichel, Jack ($2,200,000 retained) >> Abramov, Mikhail + Nylander, William + Amirov, Rodion
Take out 2nd, 3rd, Dahlin, Reilly, Eakin, Kerfoot and Abramov out of the trades.
Add Robertson (instead of Abramov) I think the trade is closer.
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2 août 2021 à 15 h 44
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Dahlin, Rasmus [RFA Rights] = Rielly, Morgan + 2022 2nd round pick (TOR) + 2023 3rd round pick (TOR) I think I am being generous as Dahlin has a HUGE upside, much more than the picks, plus considering the age and salary difference.
Rosén, Isak [Reserve List] >= 2023 1st round pick (TOR) a recent 14th OA for will most likely be a late pick
Eakin, Cody < Kerfoot, Alexander (Cody adds no value to the trade other than an over paid 4th line center)
Eichel, Jack ($2,200,000 retained) >> Abramov, Mikhail + Nylander, William + Amirov, Rodion
Take out 2nd, 3rd, Dahlin, Reilly, Eakin, Kerfoot and Abramov out of the trades.
Add Robertson (instead of Abramov) I think the trade is closer.


Rielly doesn’t have the value you seem to think he does, and particularly not to buffalo. A contending team might give up a first, but i don’t think much more than that. He’s a number 3 these days.
2 août 2021 à 15 h 50
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Rielly doesn’t have the value you seem to think he does, and particularly not to buffalo. A contending team might give up a first, but i don’t think much more than that. He’s a number 3 these days.


Elaborate...
2 août 2021 à 16 h 32
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Elaborate...


Ummm, his play over the last two seasons….
 
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