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What is the price for Vilardi

Créé par: villenash
Équipe: 2021-22 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 1 août 2021
Publié: 1 août 2021
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Glass, Tolvanen, Tomasino, and Vilardi would be a very exciting group of young forwards for NSH -- add to that Fabbro, Farrance, Carrier, and Myers -- plus Askarov -- this team would have a bright future.
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1 août 2021 à 18 h 17
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Pretty sure they’d want a top LD in return
1 août 2021 à 18 h 19
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Pretty sure they’d want a top LD in return


Would you consider Farrance to be a starting place?
1 août 2021 à 18 h 53
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Would you consider Farrance to be a starting place?


I don't think his potential is that insane.

If I were LA, I'd be looking intently at Fabbro. I know he's a RD, but as a value swap it's right on the money. Pretty much 1 for 1.
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1 août 2021 à 18 h 56
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I could see the Kings including Vilardi as part of a Forsberg or Ekholm deal. Aside from that, there's nothing that Nashville has that would entice LA into giving up Vilardi.
1 août 2021 à 18 h 58
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I don't think his potential is that insane.

If I were LA, I'd be looking intently at Fabbro. I know he's a RD, but as a value swap it's right on the money. Pretty much 1 for 1.


The Kings are overloaded with RHD prospects. After Doughty and Clarke, there's Faber and Grans, and then there's Strand, Spence, & Durzi. Fabbro is a quality defenseman, but the Kings don't have any need for him. They'd be better off keeping Vilardi and moving him to RW (a position they are desperately short at).
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I could see the Kings including Vilardi as part of a Forsberg or Ekholm deal. Aside from that, there's nothing that Nashville has that would entice LA into giving up Vilardi.


I think Nashville adds for Vilardi even if they give up Forsberg or Ekholm unless LA gets an extension at a reasonable price.
1 août 2021 à 18 h 59
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I think Nashville adds for Vilardi even if they give up Forsberg or Ekholm unless LA gets an extension at a reasonable price.


I don't think LA pulls the trigger on a Forsberg or Ekholm deal unless there's a reasonable extension agreed on ahead of time, regardless of return.
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I don't think LA pulls the trigger on a Forsberg or Ekholm deal unless there's a reasonable extension agreed on ahead of time, regardless of return.


Most likely true. Although Forsberg and Ekholm for Vilardi would be tempting.
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The Kings are overloaded with RHD prospects. After Doughty and Clarke, there's Faber and Grans, and then there's Strand, Spence, & Durzi. Fabbro is a quality defenseman, but the Kings don't have any need for him. They'd be better off keeping Vilardi and moving him to RW (a position they are desperately short at).


I realize, this is why I said it's the right value with the issue of him being a RD. If Fabbro was a LD, imo it's the perfect swap of both value and need.

Vilardi IMO is the guy directly pushed out from signing Danault. He was supposed to be a version of Horvat, but that spot is now Phil's. Byfield is now the remaining C spec to develop. (I would be wrong to say I am that educated with Turcotte or Kupari). So if they can find a LD version of Fabbro, I say pull the trigger.
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Most likely true. Although Forsberg and Ekholm for Vilardi would be tempting.


And of course at this point the Predators are the team declining. a base deal around either of these players for Vilardi doesn't make sense for either side.
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And of course at this point the Predators are the team declining. a base deal around either of these players for Vilardi doesn't make sense for either side.


The OP asked what it would take to get Vilardi. He didn't ask what would be a deal that makes sense for both sides.
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The OP asked what it would take to get Vilardi. He didn't ask what would be a deal that makes sense for both sides.


If you have $20 you're not going to ask what it would take to get a steak and lobster dinner. It still has to be in the range of realism. A basic principle of trade is dealing with what makes sense for both sides.

Regardless, both Forsberg and Ekholm seems a bit ripe.

I think Vilardi is just a bit more valuable than Glass, which was a primary portion of the value of Ellis. If Ellis is worth Glass, then surely Forsberg in terms of pure value (and especially if extended) is worth Vilardi.
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If you have $20 you're not going to ask what it would take to get a steak and lobster dinner. It still has to be in the range of realism. A basic principle of trade is dealing with what makes sense for both sides.

Regardless, both Forsberg and Ekholm seems a bit ripe.

I think Vilardi is just a bit more valuable than Glass, which was a primary portion of the value of Ellis. If Ellis is worth Glass, then surely Forsberg in terms of pure value (and especially if extended) is worth Vilardi.


The Flyers robbed Nashville in that trade.

Flyers also gave up 13OA and a 2nd rounder for 1 year of Ristolainen. So if you base it off that trade Vilardi would only get you Ekholm.

It's not good to base your valuations off lopsided trades.
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